ZerOS 7.13 Released

[simzee47]

Hi Jon,

Our FLX S48 is at present running ZerOS 7.9.9 installed Dec. 2020. Do I need to install all the subsequent updates between then and now before installing ZerOS 7.13 or can I just install 7.13.

Dave Sims

[Jon Hole]

29 minutes ago, simzee47 said:

Do I need to install all the subsequent updates between then and now before installing ZerOS 7.13

No, you can go straight to ZerOS 7.13 

[simzee47]

Thanks Jon.

[kgallen]

On 1/17/2023 at 8:22 PM, Ed75 said:

Last week I puchased two Artnet-Sacn nodes. They seem to work flawlessly too. (I use Sacn) one Showtec  2/3 pocket, and one Lightshark LS-Node4. 

On 2/24/2023 at 12:40 PM, Ed75 said:

Till now I didn't use the nodes extensivly, in a large venue. The way I will use them will vary, I wanted an flexible solution to extend my universes, (locally) and also want to be able to use them on longer distances instead of using multiple dmx-lines on a long distance.

For both the way of configuring is very easy, the showtec can be configured on the node itself and via a browser, the lightshark only via browser. Both is very easy.

Both have external powersupply, Via adapter. showtec 12V and Lightshark usb 5.0 V . The Lightshark can be powered via PoE if you want, the showtec i'm not sure. 

I tested both directly connected to the desk, and via a 19"switch. All worked well. I used the SaCN protocol.

 

On 2/24/2023 at 8:33 AM, van den abbeele Eric said:

see you are using showtec and LightShark nodes.
You say everything works really well.
In terms of configuration and operation, are you really satisfied?

I also recently purchased the Showtec NET-2 "Pocket" for my FLX to extend the number of universes available as DMX. I hope to play with this soon, so will report any issues. I can also confirm that the Showtec can be powered with PoE thus negating the need for the local "mains power brick". First impressions are favourable on build quality and features. I wasn't sure whether to use Art-Net or sACN, so I watched Edward's video again. I think I'll start with sACN as I don't have any (well 2) RDM fixtures.

Kevin

 

 

[Edward Z88]

Hi Kevin,

1 hour ago, kgallen said:

I wasn't sure whether to use Art-Net or sACN, so I watched Edward's video again. I think I'll start with sACN as I don't have any (well 2) RDM fixtures.

If you use Art-Net, you should be able to remotely configure the Showtec NET-2/5 Pocket from the console. See the link below for more information...

https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/setup/devices/art-net-devices

[kgallen]

2 hours ago, Edward Z88 said:

Hi Kevin,

If you use Art-Net, you should be able to remotely configure the Showtec NET-2/5 Pocket from the console. See the link below for more information...

https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/setup/devices/art-net-devices

Ah interesting. Thanks Edward I’ll have a play! 

[kgallen]

1 hour ago, kgallen said:

Ah interesting. Thanks Edward I’ll have a play! 

Seems to work well. FLX sees it. Not worked out how to configure it from FLX yet. Maybe I have to turn on RDM globally?

[Edward Z88]

11 hours ago, kgallen said:

Seems to work well. FLX sees it. Not worked out how to configure it from FLX yet. Maybe I have to turn on RDM globally?

You should be able to configure which universes are output from the device's ports from Setup > Devices. You won't need RDM enabled to allow this.

Most devices also allow you to change its name - if you had two, you could label one "Stage Left" and the other "Stage Right" for example.

[kgallen]

33 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:

You should be able to configure which universes are output from the device's ports from Setup > Devices. You won't need RDM enabled to allow this.

Most devices also allow you to change its name - if you had two, you could label one "Stage Left" and the other "Stage Right" for example.

Thanks Edward, I'll have more of a play. I renamed the device on the FLX but this didn't seem to reflect onto the NET-2. Maybe my name was too long!

I worked out ok patching fixtures to different universes then outputting them on Art-Net and out of the NET-2. But as yet I didn't manage to reconfigure the NET-2 from the FLX, so I'll need to play some more.

One comment on the fixture patching - I was moving some existing fixtures onto different universes when playing with this, but wanting to keep the DMX address, i.e. just change the universe. I found that the numeric dialogue box doesn't present the existing value. The number field is blank. After a bit I realised just pressing Enter kept the existing DMX address, but that box should really be showing that number (with the usual convention of having it selected for overtyping) rather than presenting a blank box. Same for the universe number - the numeric box should be prefilled with the exiting number, not blank. Could this get fixed for 7.14?

[Jon Hole]

14 minutes ago, kgallen said:

the numeric dialogue box doesn't present the existing value. The number field is blank. After a bit I realised just pressing Enter kept the existing DMX address, but that box should really be showing that number (with the usual convention of having it selected for overtyping) rather than presenting a blank box.

This is deliberately blank to indicate that the DMX Start Address is not going to be changed unless you enter a number (for situations like you describe, where you want to change the universe but not the start address).

We can think about if we can make this more clear. Maybe if all the selected fixtures are addressed sequentially, in order, with no gaps, we could show the address (as in this scenario there would be no difference if we did or didn't renumber them), but all other situations they remain blank.

 

14 minutes ago, kgallen said:

Same for the universe number - the numeric box should be prefilled with the exiting number, not blank.

This is pre-populated and selected for me - not for you? Actually, I'd say this is "wrong" currently, as if I select two fixtures on two different universes, I'm only shown the first universe number.

[kgallen]

19 minutes ago, Jon Hole said:

This is deliberately blank to indicate that the DMX Start Address is not going to be changed unless you enter a number (for situations like you describe, where you want to change the universe but not the start address).

We can think about if we can make this more clear. Maybe if all the selected fixtures are addressed sequentially, in order, with no gaps, we could show the address (as in this scenario there would be no difference if we did or didn't renumber them), but all other situations they remain blank.

This is pre-populated and selected for me - not for you? Actually, I'd say this is "wrong" currently, as if I select two fixtures on two different universes, I'm only shown the first universe number.

Hi Jon. Thank you. I guess you're aiming to handle the situation where multiple fixtures are selected and hence there isn't "one" Universe number or DMX address? OK, I understand, but I don't think that it's clear with the numeric field being empty, there should be something that indicates "retain current values".

On the Universe number I should check again. I thought the Universe button in the top left always said "Universe 1" but I'm almost certainly wrong there and it would have had the current universe number in it. I don't remember what was in the numeric dialogue, I'm pretty sure it was blank too!

I can confirm I only ever had one fixture selected though - or more correctly, I tapped on the universe/DMX address of one fixture in the Fixture Schedule - so I would have thought in this scenario the GUI should have presented the current value.

Much appreciated.

Regards,

Kevin

[Edward Z88]

58 minutes ago, kgallen said:

I renamed the device on the FLX but this didn't seem to reflect onto the NET-2. Maybe my name was too long!

If you renamed the device from the FLX, did the custom name then revert a few seconds later? If so this device prevents its name being changed remotely.

[kgallen]

Just now, Edward Z88 said:

If you renamed the device from the FLX, did the custom name then revert a few seconds later? If so this device prevents its name being changed remotely.

I didn't see it change at all on the NET-2 main/overview screen (that shows the name, IP address and IP mask). On the NET-2 when I went into the Rename menu it still had it's own default name (NET-2).

I will try and have a more thorough play tonight with the info you've both given me above. Thanks!

Also one irrelevancy - the NET-2 allows the net mask for Art-Net to be changed from the default 255.0.0.0. I couldn't see an Art-Net mask setting on the FLX. It doesn't matter, I'm just curious if the FLX has a hard-coded 255.0.0.0 under the hood.

[Edward Z88]

11 minutes ago, kgallen said:

I didn't see it change at all on the NET-2 main/overview screen (that shows the name, IP address and IP mask). On the NET-2 when I went into the Rename menu it still had it's own default name (NET-2).

Do you see the same behaviour if you use a browser to connect to the device's webpage?

13 minutes ago, kgallen said:

the NET-2 allows the net mask for Art-Net to be changed from the default 255.0.0.0. I couldn't see an Art-Net mask setting on the FLX. It doesn't matter, I'm just curious if the FLX has a hard-coded 255.0.0.0 under the hood.

On FLX, there is a "Primary" and a "Secondary" IP, that are "randomly" generated. These are 2. and 10. IP addresses respectively, both with a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0. The idea of these is to get you up and running with the majority of Art-Net devices quickly. If you need to customise the IP address and/or subnet, this is where you can choose to use a Static IP address, instead of the Primary/Secondary.

More information here...

https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/setup/universes/art-net

Hope this helps.

[kgallen]

18 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:

Do you see the same behaviour if you use a browser to connect to the device's webpage?

Didn't try a rename from the web page. I did configure sACN initially from the webpage, that worked fine.

18 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:

On FLX, there is a "Primary" and a "Secondary" IP, that are "randomly" generated. These are 2. and 10. IP addresses respectively, both with a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0. The idea of these is to get you up and running with the majority of Art-Net devices quickly. If you need to customise the IP address and/or subnet, this is where you can choose to use a Static IP address, instead of the Primary/Secondary.

Ah of course, thanks. Yes, the auto-generated Art-Net IP addresses worked well, that part of the connection was up quickly.

 

[Jon Hole]

On 3/22/2023 at 10:16 AM, kgallen said:

I would have thought in this scenario the GUI should have presented the current value.

Added a comment to ZOS-8756 which is related to various updates to the Edit DMX Address window... but it won't be for ZerOS 7.14, sorry.

[Lex]

I am working on a FLX S48 and I am trying to record snapshot pallets.

I have selected my group of lights, put them in a colour hold shift and tap record when I select a empty position on a attribute pallet it still records only colour value or beam value etc. And not ICBSPE values as mentioned in the manual (https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/palettes/recording-palettes) where do I go wrong. Is there some kind of setting that I should adjust? I cannot find any in the setup…. Regards Lex

[kgallen]

If you’re recording a colour palette, what is your reason for wanting to record ICBSPE?

ie does it make sense? Do your fixtures actually have beam/shape/position/effect to record?

If you really want this (even though I’m not sure it makes sense with the example you cite), then in the Record window you may have to tap each attribute until it has a green stripe. 

[Davidmk]

1 hour ago, kgallen said:

If you’re recording a colour palette, what is your reason for wanting to record ICBSPE?

I think you are supposed to be able to do it with any type of pallette but colour is the example in the manual.

That said I had no luck when I was trying it the other day. Just assumed it was my fault though.

[Lex]

18 hours ago, kgallen said:

If you’re recording a colour palette, what is your reason for wanting to record ICBSPE?

ie does it make sense? Do your fixtures actually have beam/shape/position/effect to record?

If you really want this (even though I’m not sure it makes sense with the example you cite), then in the Record window you may have to tap each attribute until it has a green stripe. 

Thanks for your reply. Yes fixtures do have several attributes. And yes this is a handy feature to have a lighting state readily available in one of the attributes pallets. The manual does not state that you need a specific record setting or a specific setting in setup to be anle to use the snapshot pallets possibility. I will explore futher with experimenting with record options. Regards lex

[Lex]

16 hours ago, Davidmk said:

I think you are supposed to be able to do it with any type of pallette but colour is the example in the manual.

That said I had no luck when I was trying it the other day. Just assumed it was my fault though.

Thanks for you reply. If I find some solution I will post it here. It should be possible in any attribute pallet is my conclusion also. Thos snapshot pallets feature is something common in several brands of consoles. I know chamsys magic Q has this also available. A bit different actions needed than in zeros.

[Davidmk]

Someone, @Edward Z88probably, will likely come in with the answers on Monday.

[Edward Z88]

Hi @Lex

On 4/14/2023 at 2:39 PM, Lex said:

I am working on a FLX S48 and I am trying to record snapshot pallets.

If you hold SHIFT and tap RECORD, you can then tap an empty palette within any attribute (Colour, Beam, Shape, Position, Effect). This will then store a snapshot of all parameters of all fixtures into the palette. Tapping the palette will then apply the values to the selected fixtures.

If there are fixtures patched with Intensity, Colour, Beam, Shape, and Position parameters, the palette will be annotated ICBSPE. If you only have fixtures with intensity and colour parameters patched for example, the snapshot palette will be annotated ICE.

Please feel free to send us your show file if this doesn't seem to be working, and we can take a look.

[Lex]

Thanks Edward,

 

i will explore further and will contact you if I can not find the solution.

warm regards Lex

[kgallen]

On 3/22/2023 at 9:03 AM, Edward Z88 said:

You should be able to configure which universes are output from the device's ports from Setup > Devices. You won't need RDM enabled to allow this.

Most devices also allow you to change its name - if you had two, you could label one "Stage Left" and the other "Stage Right" for example.

(I know the Showtec NET-2 is not a Zero88 device but others might be interested in using with FLX.)

Edward as you said, I can reconfigure the ArtNet universe for each DMX output on the NET-2 from the FLX and I can see the change made on the FLX reflected in the menu on the NET-2. Renaming the device on the FLX didn’t change the name on the NET-2 and renaming on the NET-2 wasn’t reflected on the FLX Devices page. This is no big issue other that it would be easier to rename using the FLX keyboard rather than the clunky character selection on the NET-2.