ZerOS 7.13 Released

[Jon Hole]

Dear All,

We’re excited to announce the availability of ZerOS 7.13, a new update for consoles and servers running the ZerOS Operating System.

New Features include:

• ZerOS Fixture Creator & Editor
• Pinned Fixture Manufacturers & Types
• Improved Fixture Search
• GDTF (General Device Type Format) support
• ZerOS Library 3.3
• Various enhancements and bug fixes

Please see the Release Notes for full details. The Online Manual has also been updated to support all the new features: https://zero88.com/manuals/zeros

ZerOS 7.13, Phantom ZerOS 7.13 (offline editor) and the Release Notes can be found at zero88.com/zeros

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us at support@zero88.com

Kind regards,

Jon

[Jon Hole]

 

[kgallen]

Great work guys (and gals)!

Good also that you're consistently flagging these releases on blue-room.org.uk 👍

[kgallen]

Of course we're forever ungrateful and are intrigued what is being worked on for 7.14 (or beyond)! 😀

Possibly the wrong thread to ask in but I'm interested if there is anything upcoming for the (FLX) Effects Engine or it you might add more preset effects to the library (I'm not sure if you can add these via a library update or if it would require a new ZerOS release). My next show in October will require me to us a lot more movement and colour effects (I realise there won't be a new ZerOS before then!).

[Jon Hole]

6 minutes ago, kgallen said:

Of course we're forever ungrateful and are intrigued what is being worked on for 7.14 (or beyond)! 😀

I'd expect nothing less 🙂   

6 minutes ago, kgallen said:

(I'm not sure if you can add these via a library update or if it would require a new ZerOS release).

Waveforms and Auto Effect Palettes are all provided by ZerOS Library.

26 minutes ago, kgallen said:

a lot more movement and colour effects

What would you be looking for?

[kgallen]

46 minutes ago, Jon Hole said:

What would you be looking for?

Hi Jon,

It's quite likely the current Auto Effects library will have what I need - once I've worked out how to tweak them to my needs. The additions you made a couple of ZerOS back were very useful, I was just curious if you'd had more ideas/requests and were building more options in.

I'll ask in a new/separate thread how you guys might suggest I build a certain effect (with LED movers).

Thanks!

Kevin

[Jon Hole]

1 minute ago, kgallen said:

The additions you made a couple of ZerOS back were very useful, I was just curious if you'd had more ideas/requests and were building more options in.

Currently, I don't believe we've heard of any new ideas based on the current waveform engine... but we're all ears to good ones! We do have ideas about more substantial changes one day.

[kgallen]

Oh right… the 7.13 update video is on the Varilite YouTube channel, not the Zero88 one - explains why I couldn’t find it.

Some cross linking required if this is a permanent change of clothes?

[Jon Hole]

Indeed... we're locked into whatever each platform allows us to do, with for YouTube is very little

[van den abbeele Eric]

Good news for us.

I will Download this new ZerOS and try this Fixture editor... 

This new 7.13, is really a good thing. 

thank for All of You

 

Eric (France)

[Gingersteve91]

Hi All,

Since updating to this version (7.13) we've noticed some of our DMX values have flipped in some of our fixtures, was this intentional? 
Previous version: 7.10
Desk: OrbXF

Examples:
Our Equinox Fusion 260ZRs P/T speed now runs at 255 (full speed), 0 (slow) this is inverted compared to the manual and came in the newer fixture library like this.
Same thing happened with our MAC 250s/250+s the focus values have been inverted in the fixture library. 255 Sharp - 0 soft (opposite to the manual).

Just wondering if this is a bug or intentional?
I had to update quite a few palettes and Default/Home values to account for these changes.

 

Thank
Steve.

[Edward Z88]

Hi Steve,

Hope you're well.

2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said:

Since updating to this version (7.13) we've noticed some of our DMX values have flipped in some of our fixtures, was this intentional? 

2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said:

Just wondering if this is a bug or intentional?

The issue was actually with ZerOS 7.10 software. ZerOS 7.10 was sometimes not correctly inverting parameters. In our library data, the specific parameters you mention of these fixtures are inverted. When it comes to P/T Speed, this is because ZerOS uses the logic that a higher value on the encoders results in a higher movement speed.

2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said:

I had to update quite a few palettes and Default/Home values to account for these changes.

Upon loading the ZerOS 7.10 show file into ZerOS 7.13, ZerOS should have continued to use the show file fixtures, rather than using the latest library fixtures. This means that the fixtures will have operated how they did in ZerOS 7.10. The Fixture Schedule then allows show file fixtures to be converted to the latest version of the fixtures from the console's library, with the caveat that the newer versions of the fixtures may be different.

I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please let me know.

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello,

I come back a little on this 7.13 update, because I finally did not have time to install it.

What can you say about this new version?

Apart from those mentioned earlier in this post, are there any other concerns?

Indeed we can imagine what Version 7.14 will give given the satisfaction index of 7.13...

A good end of the day to all

Eric

 

Bonjour,

Je reviens un peu sur cette mise à jour 7.13, car je n'ai finalement pas eu le temps de l'installer.

Que pouvez vous dire de cette nouvelle mouture ?

En dehors de ceux evoqués plus haut dans ce post, y a t'il d'autres soucis ?

En effet on peut imaginer ce que la Version 7.14 va donner au vu de l'indice de satisfaction du 7.13... 

Une bonne fin de journée à tous

Eric

[kgallen]

Hi Eric,

I've had a good experience with 7.13 on FLX. I posted some comments on the Beta forum if you have access to that.

The main takeaway seems to be that regarding the library compatibility it's better to start "fresh" on 7.13 if possible rather than load an old show. Having said that, if you tend to use the official library fixtures then Edward can recommend the fixture update process.

Regards,

Kevin

[Edward Z88]

11 hours ago, kgallen said:

it's better to start "fresh" on 7.13 if possible rather than load an old show. Having said that, if you tend to use the official library fixtures then Edward can recommend the fixture update process.

See the link below for information on upgrading “legacy” fixtures…

https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/patching/fixture-schedule/change-fixture#upgrade
 

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello,

 

Good thing this update seems to be working well. It's positive and reassuring.

Then concerning the use of old programs from 7.11 to 7.13, I will therefore avoid.

Seeing indeed that the new library 3.3 seems to contain 95% of my projectors.
Which was not the case with 7.11, where I had to use a lot of "ift" fixtures that Edward had been kind enough to make...

So there I have a show at the end of the week, and I'm going to try to use the 7.13 with the 3.3 library. See what gives...

And so if I ever have a problem with a fixture, there is now the "creator" and "editor" fixture, it will allow to try that and I hope to solve the problems.

In the same way I will follow this show, see for the operation of a node (Swisson XND-4R5 ENode 19 "4 Port 5-pol) that I have had for a few weeks.
But not being used to how IP addresses work, I will have to test things a bit... And if it seems to work well, provide a duplicate... (maybe a showtec node)

So except big problems, I think to come back at the end of the week for a feedback...

Good evening

 

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Bonjour,

 

C'est une bonne chose, que cette mise à jour semble bien fonctionner. C'est positif et rassurant. 

Ensuite concernant l'utilisation d'anciens programme provenant du 7.11 vers 7.13, je vais donc eviter. 

Voyant en effet que la nouvelle lirairie 3.3 semble contenir 95% de mes projecteurs. 
Ce qui n'etait pas le cas de 7.11, ou j'etais obligé d'utiliser pas mal de fixtures "ift" qu'Edward avait eu la gentillesse de faire...

Donc là j'ai un spectacle en fin de semaine, et je vais essayer d'utiliser le 7.13 avec la librairie 3.3. Voir ce que cela donne...

Et ainsi si jamais j'ai un soucis avec une fixture, il y a maintenant le fixture "createur" et "editeur" , cela permettra d'essayer cela et je l'espere de resoudre les soucis.

De meme je vais suite à ce spectacle, voir pour le fonctionnement d'un node (Swisson XND-4R5 ENode 19" 4 Port 5-pol) que j'ai depuis quelques semaines.
Mais n'etant pas habitué au fonctionnement des adresses IP, va falloir que je test un peu les choses... Et si cela semble bien fonctionner, prévoir un doublon... (peut etre un node showtec)

Donc sauf gros soucis, je pense revenir en fin de semaine pour un retour d'experience...

Bonne fin de journee
 

[Ed75]

It seems since my upgrade to 7.13 the "programmer time" function doesn't work anymore? it keeps 'snapping' instead of using the amount of time I put on the wheel. 

Both on FLXS as on the Solution.

Tomorrow I 'll start pre-programming a tour, which should really be up and running coming saturday. (last minute job) 

I guess I will be correcting and busking at least the first show. Would be very nice if the programmer time works. 

[Edward Z88]

Hi @Ed75

11 minutes ago, Ed75 said:

It seems since my upgrade to 7.13 the "programmer time" function doesn't work anymore? it keeps 'snapping' instead of using the amount of time I put on the wheel. 

Both on FLXS as on the Solution.

Tomorrow I 'll start pre-programming a tour, which should really be up and running coming saturday. (last minute job) 

I guess I will be correcting and busking at least the first show. Would be very nice if the programmer time works. 

Have you enabled Programmer Time? If you are on FLX S, tap the Z/Shift key to access Programmer Time on the fourth encoder wheel. You can then click the fourth encoder's button, to enable/disable Programmer Time. If Programmer Time has been configured onto a playback, the playback's button will enable/disable Programmer Time.

Edward

[Ed75]

My very bad, of course. didn't click it............

 

 

[Ed75]

Same (stupid?) question for the Solution. Where to find it? Glance through the manual does not help till now...

[Edward Z88]

Hi @Ed75

21 minutes ago, Ed75 said:

Same (stupid?) question for the Solution. Where to find it? Glance through the manual does not help till now...

On Solution consoles, you can configure an empty playback fader to control the Programmer Time, in the same way you can on FLX S48.

Hope this helps,

Edward

[Ed75]

thanks!! that'll do the job 😃

[Ed75]

Running 7.13 on all 3 consoles now. No problems till now, once had to use the onboard editor: Great!! and easy. Thanks for that! No worries anymore if I enter an Venue with fixtures unknown to the library.

Last week I puchased two Artnet-Sacn nodes. They seem to work flawlessly too. (I use Sacn) one Showtec  2/3 pocket, and one Lightshark LS-Node4. 

So only good news from here.

 

 

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello Ed75

 

see you are using showtec and LightShark nodes.
You say everything works really well.
In terms of configuration and operation, are you really satisfied?

Regarding the power supply of the LightShark, to have an external current adapter, does this not cause fragility?

How do you position nodes? Next to the control room or do you deport everything to stage level?

concerning the uses of the projectors, do you have many machines and models of Lyre & Led?

 

Thank for your help 

 

Eric

[Ed75]

Hi Eric.

Till now I didn't use the nodes extensivly, in a large venue. The way I will use them will vary, I wanted an flexible solution to extend my universes, (locally) and also want to be able to use them on longer distances instead of using multiple dmx-lines on a long distance.

For both the way of configuring is very easy, the showtec can be configured on the node itself and via a browser, the lightshark only via browser. Both is very easy.

Both have external powersupply, Via adapter. showtec 12V and Lightshark usb 5.0 V . The Lightshark can be powered via PoE if you want, the showtec i'm not sure. 

I tested both directly connected to the desk, and via a 19"switch. All worked well. I used the SaCN protocol.

My own projector-kit involves Clay Paky's and Elations,and some ADJ pro.  (and dimmers of course, zero88, liteputer,  and TTL) ) if I need to rent it is often CLF and Rogue.

I do not own or have used any Lyre Led till now.

So far for now, I will keep you informed if I notice anything of interest  to share.

 

greetings! Ed

PS you're from belgium , so if you speak/write flemish we could PM in dutch if you want.