Jon Hole Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Dear All, We’re excited to announce the availability of ZerOS 7.13, a new update for consoles and servers running the ZerOS Operating System. New Features include: ZerOS Fixture Creator & Editor Pinned Fixture Manufacturers & Types Improved Fixture Search GDTF (General Device Type Format) support ZerOS Library 3.3 Various enhancements and bug fixes Please see the Release Notes for full details. The Online Manual has also been updated to support all the new features: https://zero88.com/manuals/zeros ZerOS 7.13, Phantom ZerOS 7.13 (offline editor) and the Release Notes can be found at zero88.com/zeros If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us at support@zero88.com Kind regards, Jon 2 Quote Jon Hole Global Product Manager, Systems and Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kgallen Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Great work guys (and gals)! Good also that you're consistently flagging these releases on blue-room.org.uk 👍 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Of course we're forever ungrateful and are intrigued what is being worked on for 7.14 (or beyond)! 😀 Possibly the wrong thread to ask in but I'm interested if there is anything upcoming for the (FLX) Effects Engine or it you might add more preset effects to the library (I'm not sure if you can add these via a library update or if it would require a new ZerOS release). My next show in October will require me to us a lot more movement and colour effects (I realise there won't be a new ZerOS before then!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Hole Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, kgallen said: Of course we're forever ungrateful and are intrigued what is being worked on for 7.14 (or beyond)! 😀 I'd expect nothing less 🙂 6 minutes ago, kgallen said: (I'm not sure if you can add these via a library update or if it would require a new ZerOS release). Waveforms and Auto Effect Palettes are all provided by ZerOS Library. 26 minutes ago, kgallen said: a lot more movement and colour effects What would you be looking for? Quote Jon Hole Global Product Manager, Systems and Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Jon Hole said: What would you be looking for? Hi Jon, It's quite likely the current Auto Effects library will have what I need - once I've worked out how to tweak them to my needs. The additions you made a couple of ZerOS back were very useful, I was just curious if you'd had more ideas/requests and were building more options in. I'll ask in a new/separate thread how you guys might suggest I build a certain effect (with LED movers). Thanks! Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Hole Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, kgallen said: The additions you made a couple of ZerOS back were very useful, I was just curious if you'd had more ideas/requests and were building more options in. Currently, I don't believe we've heard of any new ideas based on the current waveform engine... but we're all ears to good ones! We do have ideas about more substantial changes one day. Quote Jon Hole Global Product Manager, Systems and Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Oh right… the 7.13 update video is on the Varilite YouTube channel, not the Zero88 one - explains why I couldn’t find it. Some cross linking required if this is a permanent change of clothes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Hole Posted September 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Indeed... we're locked into whatever each platform allows us to do, with for YouTube is very little Quote Jon Hole Global Product Manager, Systems and Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van den abbeele Eric Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 Good news for us. I will Download this new ZerOS and try this Fixture editor... This new 7.13, is really a good thing. thank for All of You Eric (France) 2 Quote 1 FLX + 1 wing "7.14" + 1 FLX "7.13" & 4 Wings / 2 Touchscreen // Jester 24/48 2 Swisson XND-4R5 ENode // Stairville : 4 Wash MZH 19X15w - 31 Retro Flat Par 18X 12w RGBW Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 // ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC LedStage : 10 LS200 - Spot 200w // 19 Wash Par 12 X 18W // 12 BOWLDER 12X40w WASH // 12 PARZOOM 19 X 15w // 7 LY 400 - BSW CMY LED 400w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingersteve91 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Hi All, Since updating to this version (7.13) we've noticed some of our DMX values have flipped in some of our fixtures, was this intentional? Previous version: 7.10 Desk: OrbXF Examples: Our Equinox Fusion 260ZRs P/T speed now runs at 255 (full speed), 0 (slow) this is inverted compared to the manual and came in the newer fixture library like this. Same thing happened with our MAC 250s/250+s the focus values have been inverted in the fixture library. 255 Sharp - 0 soft (opposite to the manual). Just wondering if this is a bug or intentional? I had to update quite a few palettes and Default/Home values to account for these changes. Thank Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Hi Steve, Hope you're well. 2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said: Since updating to this version (7.13) we've noticed some of our DMX values have flipped in some of our fixtures, was this intentional? 2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said: Just wondering if this is a bug or intentional? The issue was actually with ZerOS 7.10 software. ZerOS 7.10 was sometimes not correctly inverting parameters. In our library data, the specific parameters you mention of these fixtures are inverted. When it comes to P/T Speed, this is because ZerOS uses the logic that a higher value on the encoders results in a higher movement speed. 2 hours ago, Gingersteve91 said: I had to update quite a few palettes and Default/Home values to account for these changes. Upon loading the ZerOS 7.10 show file into ZerOS 7.13, ZerOS should have continued to use the show file fixtures, rather than using the latest library fixtures. This means that the fixtures will have operated how they did in ZerOS 7.10. The Fixture Schedule then allows show file fixtures to be converted to the latest version of the fixtures from the console's library, with the caveat that the newer versions of the fixtures may be different. I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please let me know. Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Email Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van den abbeele Eric Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Hello, I come back a little on this 7.13 update, because I finally did not have time to install it. What can you say about this new version? Apart from those mentioned earlier in this post, are there any other concerns? Indeed we can imagine what Version 7.14 will give given the satisfaction index of 7.13... A good end of the day to all Eric Bonjour, Je reviens un peu sur cette mise à jour 7.13, car je n'ai finalement pas eu le temps de l'installer. Que pouvez vous dire de cette nouvelle mouture ? En dehors de ceux evoqués plus haut dans ce post, y a t'il d'autres soucis ? En effet on peut imaginer ce que la Version 7.14 va donner au vu de l'indice de satisfaction du 7.13... Une bonne fin de journée à tous Eric Quote 1 FLX + 1 wing "7.14" + 1 FLX "7.13" & 4 Wings / 2 Touchscreen // Jester 24/48 2 Swisson XND-4R5 ENode // Stairville : 4 Wash MZH 19X15w - 31 Retro Flat Par 18X 12w RGBW Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 // ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC LedStage : 10 LS200 - Spot 200w // 19 Wash Par 12 X 18W // 12 BOWLDER 12X40w WASH // 12 PARZOOM 19 X 15w // 7 LY 400 - BSW CMY LED 400w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgallen Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Hi Eric, I've had a good experience with 7.13 on FLX. I posted some comments on the Beta forum if you have access to that. The main takeaway seems to be that regarding the library compatibility it's better to start "fresh" on 7.13 if possible rather than load an old show. Having said that, if you tend to use the official library fixtures then Edward can recommend the fixture update process. Regards, Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 11 hours ago, kgallen said: it's better to start "fresh" on 7.13 if possible rather than load an old show. Having said that, if you tend to use the official library fixtures then Edward can recommend the fixture update process. See the link below for information on upgrading “legacy” fixtures… https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/patching/fixture-schedule/change-fixture#upgrade Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Email Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van den abbeele Eric Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Hello, Good thing this update seems to be working well. It's positive and reassuring. Then concerning the use of old programs from 7.11 to 7.13, I will therefore avoid. Seeing indeed that the new library 3.3 seems to contain 95% of my projectors. Which was not the case with 7.11, where I had to use a lot of "ift" fixtures that Edward had been kind enough to make... So there I have a show at the end of the week, and I'm going to try to use the 7.13 with the 3.3 library. See what gives... And so if I ever have a problem with a fixture, there is now the "creator" and "editor" fixture, it will allow to try that and I hope to solve the problems. In the same way I will follow this show, see for the operation of a node (Swisson XND-4R5 ENode 19 "4 Port 5-pol) that I have had for a few weeks. But not being used to how IP addresses work, I will have to test things a bit... And if it seems to work well, provide a duplicate... (maybe a showtec node) So except big problems, I think to come back at the end of the week for a feedback... Good evening ---------------- Bonjour, C'est une bonne chose, que cette mise à jour semble bien fonctionner. C'est positif et rassurant. Ensuite concernant l'utilisation d'anciens programme provenant du 7.11 vers 7.13, je vais donc eviter. Voyant en effet que la nouvelle lirairie 3.3 semble contenir 95% de mes projecteurs. Ce qui n'etait pas le cas de 7.11, ou j'etais obligé d'utiliser pas mal de fixtures "ift" qu'Edward avait eu la gentillesse de faire... Donc là j'ai un spectacle en fin de semaine, et je vais essayer d'utiliser le 7.13 avec la librairie 3.3. Voir ce que cela donne... Et ainsi si jamais j'ai un soucis avec une fixture, il y a maintenant le fixture "createur" et "editeur" , cela permettra d'essayer cela et je l'espere de resoudre les soucis. De meme je vais suite à ce spectacle, voir pour le fonctionnement d'un node (Swisson XND-4R5 ENode 19" 4 Port 5-pol) que j'ai depuis quelques semaines. Mais n'etant pas habitué au fonctionnement des adresses IP, va falloir que je test un peu les choses... Et si cela semble bien fonctionner, prévoir un doublon... (peut etre un node showtec) Donc sauf gros soucis, je pense revenir en fin de semaine pour un retour d'experience... Bonne fin de journee Quote 1 FLX + 1 wing "7.14" + 1 FLX "7.13" & 4 Wings / 2 Touchscreen // Jester 24/48 2 Swisson XND-4R5 ENode // Stairville : 4 Wash MZH 19X15w - 31 Retro Flat Par 18X 12w RGBW Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 // ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC LedStage : 10 LS200 - Spot 200w // 19 Wash Par 12 X 18W // 12 BOWLDER 12X40w WASH // 12 PARZOOM 19 X 15w // 7 LY 400 - BSW CMY LED 400w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed75 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 It seems since my upgrade to 7.13 the "programmer time" function doesn't work anymore? it keeps 'snapping' instead of using the amount of time I put on the wheel. Both on FLXS as on the Solution. Tomorrow I 'll start pre-programming a tour, which should really be up and running coming saturday. (last minute job) I guess I will be correcting and busking at least the first show. Would be very nice if the programmer time works. Quote Freelance Theatre Lighting designer/operator/allround technician/tech production/rental . Netherlands. FLX, FLX S48 2U, Solution, 13" multitouch monitor, 15" portable multitouch monitor, 11.4" lenovo thinkpad touch, network hub with wifi, powered usb hub, keyboard, trackball. 2x Elgato Streamdeck, nodes: showtec 2-3 and Lightshark node-4 2x 19" networkswitch, IOS zeros remote. 22" Iiyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Hi @Ed75 11 minutes ago, Ed75 said: It seems since my upgrade to 7.13 the "programmer time" function doesn't work anymore? it keeps 'snapping' instead of using the amount of time I put on the wheel. Both on FLXS as on the Solution. Tomorrow I 'll start pre-programming a tour, which should really be up and running coming saturday. (last minute job) I guess I will be correcting and busking at least the first show. Would be very nice if the programmer time works. Have you enabled Programmer Time? If you are on FLX S, tap the Z/Shift key to access Programmer Time on the fourth encoder wheel. You can then click the fourth encoder's button, to enable/disable Programmer Time. If Programmer Time has been configured onto a playback, the playback's button will enable/disable Programmer Time. Edward Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Email Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed75 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 My very bad, of course. didn't click it............ Quote Freelance Theatre Lighting designer/operator/allround technician/tech production/rental . Netherlands. FLX, FLX S48 2U, Solution, 13" multitouch monitor, 15" portable multitouch monitor, 11.4" lenovo thinkpad touch, network hub with wifi, powered usb hub, keyboard, trackball. 2x Elgato Streamdeck, nodes: showtec 2-3 and Lightshark node-4 2x 19" networkswitch, IOS zeros remote. 22" Iiyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed75 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Same (stupid?) question for the Solution. Where to find it? Glance through the manual does not help till now... Quote Freelance Theatre Lighting designer/operator/allround technician/tech production/rental . Netherlands. FLX, FLX S48 2U, Solution, 13" multitouch monitor, 15" portable multitouch monitor, 11.4" lenovo thinkpad touch, network hub with wifi, powered usb hub, keyboard, trackball. 2x Elgato Streamdeck, nodes: showtec 2-3 and Lightshark node-4 2x 19" networkswitch, IOS zeros remote. 22" Iiyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Z88 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Hi @Ed75 21 minutes ago, Ed75 said: Same (stupid?) question for the Solution. Where to find it? Glance through the manual does not help till now... On Solution consoles, you can configure an empty playback fader to control the Programmer Time, in the same way you can on FLX S48. Hope this helps, Edward 1 Quote Edward Smith Product Specialist Email Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed75 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 thanks!! that'll do the job 😃 1 Quote Freelance Theatre Lighting designer/operator/allround technician/tech production/rental . Netherlands. FLX, FLX S48 2U, Solution, 13" multitouch monitor, 15" portable multitouch monitor, 11.4" lenovo thinkpad touch, network hub with wifi, powered usb hub, keyboard, trackball. 2x Elgato Streamdeck, nodes: showtec 2-3 and Lightshark node-4 2x 19" networkswitch, IOS zeros remote. 22" Iiyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed75 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 Running 7.13 on all 3 consoles now. No problems till now, once had to use the onboard editor: Great!! and easy. Thanks for that! No worries anymore if I enter an Venue with fixtures unknown to the library. Last week I puchased two Artnet-Sacn nodes. They seem to work flawlessly too. (I use Sacn) one Showtec 2/3 pocket, and one Lightshark LS-Node4. So only good news from here. 2 Quote Freelance Theatre Lighting designer/operator/allround technician/tech production/rental . Netherlands. FLX, FLX S48 2U, Solution, 13" multitouch monitor, 15" portable multitouch monitor, 11.4" lenovo thinkpad touch, network hub with wifi, powered usb hub, keyboard, trackball. 2x Elgato Streamdeck, nodes: showtec 2-3 and Lightshark node-4 2x 19" networkswitch, IOS zeros remote. 22" Iiyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van den abbeele Eric Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Hello Ed75 see you are using showtec and LightShark nodes. You say everything works really well. In terms of configuration and operation, are you really satisfied? Regarding the power supply of the LightShark, to have an external current adapter, does this not cause fragility? How do you position nodes? Next to the control room or do you deport everything to stage level? concerning the uses of the projectors, do you have many machines and models of Lyre & Led? Thank for your help Eric Quote 1 FLX + 1 wing "7.14" + 1 FLX "7.13" & 4 Wings / 2 Touchscreen // Jester 24/48 2 Swisson XND-4R5 ENode // Stairville : 4 Wash MZH 19X15w - 31 Retro Flat Par 18X 12w RGBW Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 // ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC LedStage : 10 LS200 - Spot 200w // 19 Wash Par 12 X 18W // 12 BOWLDER 12X40w WASH // 12 PARZOOM 19 X 15w // 7 LY 400 - BSW CMY LED 400w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed75 Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Hi Eric. Till now I didn't use the nodes extensivly, in a large venue. The way I will use them will vary, I wanted an flexible solution to extend my universes, (locally) and also want to be able to use them on longer distances instead of using multiple dmx-lines on a long distance. For both the way of configuring is very easy, the showtec can be configured on the node itself and via a browser, the lightshark only via browser. Both is very easy. Both have external powersupply, Via adapter. showtec 12V and Lightshark usb 5.0 V . The Lightshark can be powered via PoE if you want, the showtec i'm not sure. I tested both directly connected to the desk, and via a 19"switch. All worked well. I used the SaCN protocol. My own projector-kit involves Clay Paky's and Elations,and some ADJ pro. (and dimmers of course, zero88, liteputer, and TTL) ) if I need to rent it is often CLF and Rogue. I do not own or have used any Lyre Led till now. So far for now, I will keep you informed if I notice anything of interest to share. greetings! Ed PS you're from belgium , so if you speak/write flemish we could PM in dutch if you want. Quote Freelance Theatre Lighting designer/operator/allround technician/tech production/rental . Netherlands. FLX, FLX S48 2U, Solution, 13" multitouch monitor, 15" portable multitouch monitor, 11.4" lenovo thinkpad touch, network hub with wifi, powered usb hub, keyboard, trackball. 2x Elgato Streamdeck, nodes: showtec 2-3 and Lightshark node-4 2x 19" networkswitch, IOS zeros remote. 22" Iiyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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