FLX-s 3 fader rgb

[phosphene]

This geriatric wants to use 3 faders (subs, playbacks, whatever you want to call them) on FLX-S to control RGB to allow colour mixing of currently live (or group selected fixtures desireably.) All fixtures are LED RGB or similar.

As I have got the desk set starting to raise a fader with a colour allocated RGB snaps a fixture from it's default white to the colour (unsubtle... I'd like it to fade in the colour over the default) and when another colour fader is added similarly snaps that colour in and does not allow mixing the two, or more colours. Obviously theres some LTP going on here.

By what trick.... specific button push sequence please... can I create three faders that will mix colour together, with smooth fader proportional action, and apply those mixed colours to selected fixtures??.  

Thanks

Cliff

[kgallen]

https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/cues-playbacks/playing-back-cues/rgb-colour-mixing-on-playbacks

Make sure you follow the instructions exactly. If you accidentally adjust something you didn't mean to then that parameter will get "tagged" and what you record to the playback won't be what you intend and won't work properly for what you require. If you mess up the sequence, easiest to delete the playback and start again.

[Edward Z88]

Hi @phosphene

Hope you're well.

1 hour ago, phosphene said:

This geriatric wants to use 3 faders (subs, playbacks, whatever you want to call them) on FLX-S to control RGB to allow colour mixing of currently live (or group selected fixtures desireably.) All fixtures are LED RGB or similar.

I would recommend taking a look at the tutorial below, which looks specifically at colour mixing on faders...

 

If you are still unable to achieve what you're after, please let us know.

Edward

[phosphene]

Thanks Edward. Yes fine, and hope you are well too.

I've looked at the video. Will give it a go next time I get my hands on the desk and there's a few minutes of venue time available (!)

Are there ways of globally and completely changing the way the desk records. (and retaining those preferences so they stay unless someone restores factory settings)  I suspect that I never (that's never) want a default fade time on anything. I suspect I always (that's always) want fader control on everything (all parameters) We also never want smart tagging. I waste a lot of time doing the press and hold record and deselecting various things. I only ever drive the desk using the subs and we will never plot any show using the cue stack.

I'm sure that you consider that a very old fashioned way of driving, but almost everything this desk has to do is on-the-fly , one night only, busking.

All the best

Cliff

[Edward Z88]

Hi Cliff,

6 minutes ago, phosphene said:

Are there ways of globally and completely changing the way the desk records. (and retaining those preferences so they stay unless someone restores factory settings)  I suspect that I never (that's never) want a default fade time on anything. I suspect I always (that's always) want fader control on everything (all parameters) We also never want smart tagging. I waste a lot of time doing the press and hold record and deselecting various things. I only ever drive the desk using the subs and we will never plot any show using the cue stack.

To set default cue timings, and default playback settings, tap SETUP -> Defaults. For more information, please see the link below...

https://zero88.com/manuals/zeros/setup/defaults-2

Once SmartTag has been disabled in the Record Options, it will then stay disabled until you manually enable it again. This means there is no need to press and hold RECORD each time you want to record a cue.

I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please let us know.

Edward

[phosphene]

Thanks Edward.    Bring back Sirius 250.... or XLS!

Cliff

[kgallen]

5 hours ago, phosphene said:

Thanks Edward.    Bring back Sirius 250.... or XLS!

Cliff

There is no comparison to FLX-S. Maybe you need to play with the desk a bit more and adapt your programming style from fader-per-channel mindset to using for example the colour palettes and mood boards, groups and layered playbacks?

Good luck! Yes I'm still learning too!

[phosphene]

On 3/28/2022 at 8:57 PM, kgallen said:

There is no comparison to FLX-S. Maybe you need to play with the desk a bit more and adapt your programming style from fader-per-channel mindset to using for example the colour palettes and mood boards, groups and layered playbacks?

Good luck! Yes I'm still learning too!

 

[phosphene]

I constantly use colour picker and groups. But manual fader control of parameters gives much better 'feel' to a busked show. Just like a manual gearbox gives better control to a skilled driver than an automatic.

[phosphene]

Returning to the original query (RGB mixing) ... and preferably avoiding being told off for preferring manual group control for live 'one-nighter' work... is there any way of creating parameter fader control that can control selected groups on the fly, or do we have to specify the fixtures when programming, as seems to be indicated by the above tutorial? Using up faders for (for example) RGB and level, multiple times for each possible 'group' of fixtures in a rig seems very wasteful. Am I, probably, missing something here?  Thanks Edward.  Cliff  

[Erics]

For that someone programmed the color picker 🙂

[Edward Z88]

Hi @phosphene

37 minutes ago, phosphene said:

is there any way of creating parameter fader control that can control selected groups on the fly, or do we have to specify the fixtures when programming, as seems to be indicated by the above tutorial?

If you wish to use playback faders to control levels of RGB, you will need to manually record the required fixtures into your playback faders, as per the tutorial.

There is no way of creating a set of RGB faders and then assigning different fixtures to them on the fly.

For this, you would need the standard FLX, so that you could access the onscreen faders window.

If you have any questions, please let us know.

Edward