Using a playback as a referenced submaster.

[STPartington]

I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but I've checked the manual and I can't see it..

Is it possible to use a playback as a submaster and then use that submaster in a cue on another (let's say master) playback so that when you update the submaster playback it also updates the cue in the master playback?

I understand a similar outcome is possible with palletes (and I can have a 'snapshot' pallette, but I'd rather not select the lights every time if avoidable.

 

 

[Edward Z88]

Hi Stevie,

Good to hear from you! How are you?

12 minutes ago, STPartington said:

Is it possible to use a playback as a submaster and then use that submaster in a cue on another (let's say master) playback so that when you update the submaster playback it also updates the cue in the master playback?

You could do this by simply triggering the playback from a cue in the Master Playback each time you need it. Your cues in the master playback therefore wouldn't "reference" the playback, they would just tell it to be triggered.

For example, let's say you have a single cue programmed on playback 1, that you wish to use regularly throughout the show on your Master Playback.

Whenever you wish to do this, you will be able to program an almost empty cue on the Master Playback. You can then go into the cue's settings, and configure it to trigger playback 1. The next cue would then need to be configured to release playback 1. The reason I say that the cue that triggers playback 1 needs to be almost empty, is because if it is completely blank, with no intensity information at all, fade times will not be available for the cue. However, you will need these to govern the fade in time of the playback that's being triggered. You may therefore want to just add a fixture in at 1%, to ensure you have some information in it, to allow you to configure fade times.

For information on triggering and releasing playbacks from a cue, please see the link below...

https://zero88.com/manuals/zeros/cues-playbacks/cue-settings/cue-macros

I hope this helps. If you have any questions let us know.

Edward

[STPartington]

Hi Edward,

I'm great thanks. I hope you're all well too!

I'm now at a new school in Essex and doing a bit more theatre tech than before, which is nice!

Thanks for this info, that's great. Is move in dark clever enough to look ahead to a different playback to grab position data?

Regards,

Stevie

[Edward Z88]

Hi Stevie,

1 hour ago, STPartington said:

I'm great thanks. I hope you're all well too!

I'm now at a new school in Essex and doing a bit more theatre tech than before, which is nice!

I'm keeping well thanks. Sounds great! Essex sounds rather close to the sea and London for ballooning!

1 hour ago, STPartington said:

Thanks for this info, that's great. Is move in dark clever enough to look ahead to a different playback to grab position data?

Good question. No it won't. Move On Dark only reads ahead to data stored in cues further down the cue stack.

However if you needed a workaround, let's say that in cue 11 you need to trigger playback 1. Let's say that cue 10 does not use the lights in playback 1. In cue 10, you could trigger a cue "0.5" for example in playback 1, which is an empty cue, however can prepare your lights for cue 1.

Cue 11, could then trigger cue 1 in playback 1, and you will simply see intensity raised, as cue "0.5" would have already run and prepared the colour, beam, shape and position.

Hope this helps,

Edward

[STPartington]

6 hours ago, Edward Z88 said:

Essex sounds rather close to the sea and London for ballooning!

Yes, my current plan is to head back to my old haunt for the launches!

 

I think I'm going to use snapshot pallettes and groups for this one. Thanks for the help!

I'm looking forward to getting back into the FLX way of working.

[Edward Z88]

Hi Stevie,

22 hours ago, STPartington said:

Yes, my current plan is to head back to my old haunt for the launches!

I think I'm going to use snapshot pallettes and groups for this one. Thanks for the help!

I'm looking forward to getting back into the FLX way of working.

No problem at all - makes sense. 

If there’s anything else we can help with, just let us know. 

Edward