Presets to become Channel/Playback selectable on Solution series?

[delicolor]

I thought I saw somewhere in the forum (or maybe another forum) that being able to place a playback onto channel faders 1-48 as well as the ten paged MFF playbacks was coming on software. 7.9.x for Solution (and LeapFrog) desks.

Is this actually the case or is this just wishful thinking? I realise I can do this with a Zeros Wing but that is a four figure sum more usefully spent elsewhere.

Thanks,

Ian

[Edward Z88]

Hi Ian,

19 minutes ago, delicolor said:

I thought I saw somewhere in the forum (or maybe another forum) that being able to place a playback onto channel faders 1-48 as well as the ten paged MFF playbacks was coming on software. 7.9.x for Solution (and LeapFrog) desks.

Rather than being able to record playbacks directly onto the channel faders, you can use spare channel faders to control playbacks on other playback pages. This can be done using DMX In, by linking one of your unused DMX outputs on the back of the console to the DMX input port, on Leapfrog or Solution consoles.

The topic below mentions this, which may be the one you saw...

The instructions above are as per software versions ZerOS 7.9.2 - ZerOS 7.9.4. If you are running the latest software (ZerOS 7.9.7), the options are found in slightly different Setup menus.

To configure this, firstly readdress the channel faders you wish to use to control some of your playbacks. To do this, tap SETUP -> Fixture Schedule, and then tap the channel buttons you wish to edit, in order. You should then just see these fixtures in the Fixture Schedule. Then tap "Address" at the top, and assign these onto a free desk universe you are not using, starting at address 1.

Then, tap Universes within Setup, and scroll down to the Desk Universe you just assigned your channel faders to. Under DMX for that Desk Universe, you can then configure an unused DMX port number on the back of your console to output this universe. You can then use a short DMX cable to come out of this port, and then into the DMX input.

Then, tap Triggers within Setup, and under DMX In, you will be able to add playbacks that you wish your incoming DMX channels to control.

I hope this helps, if you have any questions let me know.

Edward

[delicolor]

27 minutes ago, Edward- Z88 said:

Hi Ian,

Rather than being able to record playbacks directly onto the channel faders, you can use spare channel faders to control playbacks on other playback pages. This can be done using DMX In, by linking one of your unused DMX outputs on the back of the console to the DMX input port, on Leapfrog or Solution consoles.

The topic below mentions this, which may be the one you saw...

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No, that was all new to me, but thanks for the tip, I'll see if I can think of a use for it.

[delicolor]

Edward, I assume that if I route the DMX OUT to DMX IN via a splitter in the above scenario, the channels I don't use to trigger Playbacks are available to route on to fixtures if desired?

[Edward Z88]

Hello,

3 hours ago, delicolor said:

Edward, I assume that if I route the DMX OUT to DMX IN via a splitter in the above scenario, the channels I don't use to trigger Playbacks are available to route on to fixtures if desired?

Yes, exactly right. Rather than wasting a whole output for just a few channels used to trigger your playbacks, you could use a DMX splitter plugged into a DMX output, route one of the outputs back into the console, and then use the other outputs to control fixtures. 

Edward

[delicolor]

Edward, I tried the presets to playbacks quickly yesterday, using five faders patched to DMX universe 2 channels set to trigger five playbacks. It sort-of worked but some behaviour was not quite as expected, mainly on playbacks with colour only attributes and fader follow set. It seemed to be fine via the actual playback faders but via the triggering they went up OK but stayed up. I cannot emulate this on Phantom ZerOs due to the inability to connect DMX OUT to IN to fire the triggers. However I will look more closely when next in the venue as it might have been something I overlooked.

As an aside, I did find a small display bug. When creating cues with just one colour attribute to save into a playback, holding the the clear whilst jiggling the wheels deselected them Ok and the wheel background changed from white to blue, whilst the display changed from blue to black. However the white no colour attribute would deselect OK on the wheel but remain blue on the screen.Smart tag off, 7.9.7 on Leapfrog 48 and Phantom. The illustration shows the display with only blue selected at 100% but white misleadingly remains highlighted. The same seems to happen with intensity. It is immediately updated to show correctly if adding/deselecting fixtures or refreshing the outputs screen.

[Edward Z88]

Hello,

Thanks for the information.

19 minutes ago, delicolor said:

It seemed to be fine via the actual playback faders but via the triggering they went up OK but stayed up.

18 minutes ago, delicolor said:

However I will look more closely when next in the venue as it might have been something I overlooked.

Yes please take a look when you next get a chance - when DMX In is controlling a playback, the physical fader level and fader level from the DMX Input should mix with LTP catch behaviour.

23 minutes ago, delicolor said:

I cannot emulate this on Phantom ZerOs due to the inability to connect DMX OUT to IN to fire the triggers.

24 channels of DMX In can be sent to Phantom, by opening the "DMX In Panel" window from the Phantom ZerOS launcher, and then using the virtual faders to emulate your DMX input.

39 minutes ago, delicolor said:

The illustration shows the display with only blue selected at 100% but white misleadingly remains highlighted. The same seems to happen with intensity. It is immediately updated to show correctly if adding/deselecting fixtures or refreshing the outputs screen.

Well spotted - the parameter table is not updating the tag/untag state straight away when parameters with no Special defined and no details are manually tagged/untagged. The encoder displays are updating correctly, and tapping into the Output window updates the parameter table correctly.

I have logged this on our software tracking system as reference number ZOS-10473.

I hope this helps, if you have any questions let us know.

Edward