Fixture problems (Ledstage)

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello

 

I have a problem with a fixture (newly made by you)
From Ledstage
- Zoom Led Par: 6ch
- Zoom Led Par: 10ch
- Zoom Led Par: 18ch
When I connect the projector to work with, (In 6CH, 10CH mode, as in 18ch) the MFF fader at 0% the projector work on in white at 100%.

Going to the colors nothing change, only white dominates everything. And even when I lower the Fader General, the PARZOOM is always on ...
The Zoom is fine in control

.
So the only possibility I have to do something is to turn off the intensity through the touch screen. and still the fader at 0%, I can then play on the colors.
I looked in the FLX menus, (Colors, Beam, Shape) if there was a solution somewhere, without finding anything.

 

In order to see where the problem comes from, I try with my JESTER 24/48, to command the LedStage PARZOOM in 6 channel mode, and in 10 mode channel. And all was OK. 

 I put again the PARZOOM in 6CH mode on FLX using 6 faders (6 dimmer on 6 fader) and  everything was fine.

Everything being at 0%, (Each color and the white as well as the general dimmer) I can mount each color manually and everything works well.

 

So I think that when the projector is connected to the FLX, in the PARZOOM fixture, there must be something that plays  at 100% automatically. So for the moment I am unable  to use the projectors...

 

Is it possible to update this fixture, and so if it's something you can do, is it then possible to replace this fixture in FLX that is causing problems with an updated fixture?

Thanks for your help.

PS I will still try to see by acquaintances around me, if I can find someone who can help me in the creation of fixture ...

Thank you

Eric VDA

[Edward Z88]

Hi Eric,

I have taken a look at the LEDSTAGE Zoom Led Par fixture. Correctly, Red, Green and Blue are defaulted to full, as there is a dimmer channel. However from your description it sounds like the dimmer channel on the fixture is not scaling these correctly. Are you able to email us a copy of the fixture's manual to FixtureSupport@zero88.com? If so we'll be able to check the fixture matches the personality for FLX.

If you wish to use the fixture in 6 channel mode, I'd recommend patching 6 dimmer channels on FLX as you have done, and making a note of what each channel does. Make sure the address of the fixture matches the address of the first channel fader.

Hope this helps, if you have any questions let us know.

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello

overall I can not operate in manual mode with 1 fader per channel.

Because with 10 projectors, in 6ch mode, I would need 60 fader.

Either have 3 more FLX wings ... Unless I will find abandoned wings at the roadside, will be a solution... But going through the purchase is complicated for now ...

 

 

this is how I tried it.

on FLX as on Jester 24/48:

Fader 1 = ch 1 Zoom 50%
Fader 2 = ch 2 Red 0%
Fader 3 = Ch 3 Green 0%
Fader 4 = Ch 4 Blue 0%
Fader 5 = Ch 5 White 0%
Fader 6 = Dimmer level (8 Bit-16bit) 0%

In this case, everything is fine.

I did the test in 10 ch mode,
with all channels at 0% like the zoom at 50% and everything was fine.

I imagine that this dimmer level mode (6 in 6ch mode, 10 in ten CH mode, and 18 in 18 ch mode) was not well informed more maybe than all the other fader to Full by default, so that nothing is under control except to do as I could find it go on color and go to the intensity of the touch screen, impractical way to have a black.

I will send the manual (little information now on the fixture email ...)

Thanks for your help...

[van den abbeele Eric]

By pushing things further.

I realize that this Level dimmer mode also plays on fade speed depending on where the value is. And depending on where you put the value or everything hangs.

I try to have more info to know between 0 to 255 what it does at the projector from the French importer which is very affordable.

But I think that channel 6 must be able to be set to 0% even if it means being able to modify this setting by means of a rotary button.

To be continued .... and see how to find solutions.

[Edward Z88]

Hi Eric,

57 minutes ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

overall I can not operate in manual mode with 1 fader per channel.

Because with 10 projectors, in 6ch mode, I would need 60 fader.

This is purely for testing purposes, so you can work out what the channels do.

57 minutes ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

on FLX as on Jester 24/48:

Fader 1 = ch 1 Zoom 50%
Fader 2 = ch 2 Red 0%
Fader 3 = Ch 3 Green 0%
Fader 4 = Ch 4 Blue 0%
Fader 5 = Ch 5 White 0%
Fader 6 = Dimmer level (8 Bit-16bit) 0%

In this case, everything is fine.

This matches the fixture file.

12 minutes ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

I realize that this Level dimmer mode also plays on fade speed depending on where the value is. And depending on where you put the value or everything hangs.

When you find this information, we will be able to modify the fixture file, and send it back to you. It sounds like the "Dimmer" parameter is more like a shutter.

If you have any questions let us know.

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

I had indeed confirmation that it is preferable to have the values at 0% at the level of the Dimmer Level. ch 6 on 6 ch mode, CH 10 on 10CH mode and ch 18 on 18CH mode.

 

This channel will go on an up / down time in 8 and 16 bit mode. 
When I put it all at 100% it's chaotic.

With Jester 24/48
So I tested in mode 6, 10ch and 18 ch
I confirm indeed that while being at Zero, the projector behaves in the best way.
Then if in 10 CH and 18Ch mode there is an "All Dimmer" channel which behaves like general, in 6ch mode, there is no general setting. So the only way to increase or decrease the intensity is through channels 2, 3, 4, 5, (a bit like on the "Martin Rush Par2")

 

défaut mode on "speed" is "0"  (CH 9 on 10 ch mode - Ch 17 on 18 ch mode)

Defaut mode on "dimmer level" is "0" (Ch 6 on 6ch mode - CH 10 on 10 ch mode - Ch 18 on 18 ch mode)

défaut mode" strob" is "0" (CH 7 on 10 ch mode - Ch 15 on 18 ch mode)

défaut mode on "Fonction" is "0"  (CH 8 on 10 ch mode - Ch 16 on 18 ch mode)

 

 

Do you need more info?

 

 

Normaly it will be work like this.

 

Thank Edouard

[Edward Z88]

Hi Eric,

I believe Keith has replied to your fixture request with an updated fixture file.

Has this solved the issue?

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

I going to try and telling you in few minutes. Thank a lot

[van den abbeele Eric]

Unfortunately it does not work better.

In 6ch mode I have a little fader light at the bottom, and the only way to turn it off is to lower the intensity again in the color option touch screen.

in 10 ch mode, I have nothing that lights up and there to have something you have to go to RGBW Dim, but it's not magic ... I do not access the Zoom or strobe ...

I gave the link of the fixtures page to the importer to see if maybe he can find a solution ... (He creates the fixtures for the Sunlite environment.)

Thanks for your help...

[Edward Z88]

Hi Eric,

No problem.

16 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

Unfortunately it does not work better.

It sounds like the fixture's manual is therefore incorrect, if you have tried the replacement fixtures and are still experiencing difficulty.

You can change the RGBW defaults to 0 if you wish, to avoid the fixture coming on despite the dimmer being down.

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

exactly. 

The importateur have find a solution. He did for me a 10 CH mode try, and it's working.

I try now to have a complet version (6ch/10ch/18Ch) 

 

And he tell me that was really a factory problems... So When I will a good version I will send you for complete the Fixtures files. (Version gtf40... )

 

Thank a lot

 

Take care !

[Edward Z88]

Hi Eric,

16 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

And he tell me that was really a factory problems... So When I will a good version I will send you for complete the Fixtures files. (Version gtf40... )

That's great, when we have an updated fixture file we will include it in a future library version release.

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

Yes exactly. 

I m thinking about the community ...

 

Thank and have a good week.

[van den abbeele Eric]

 

 

Hello,

The person who imports the Stage LED spotlight has downloaded your software to create fixtures.

But I don't think he understands all the subtleties. So I think I will go through your services again by modifying the MAP DMX of the instructions for use of the projector in question, because this guy and I believe that there is a translation problem. And when I think I have to explain how each channel works. So there is more chance that everything will work properly.

In any case, thank you in advance.

A question nonetheless, when a fixture is created and it does not work well, is there a possibility to delete it? Or overwrite it by creating a new fixture and naming it the same way?
I say this because with this PARZOOM, the person who imports the projector has created several ... And all have their faults ... 1 works not too bad but several give nothing. A bit like the fixture that ZERO88 created which was not working  ...

Thank you so much,

Eric

[Edward Z88]

Hi Eric,

All custom fixture files can be removed from the console, by tapping SETUP -> Clear Options -> Clear Fixture Files.

Fixtures contained in the library cannot be removed.

It is a good idea to name custom fixture files in a way to avoid duplicates, such as adding "v2" to the end.

Hope this helps,

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello Edward

 

I send yesterday to your fixture support colleague, the DMX MAP with correction (about error from the Led Maker, perhaps the traduction between Chinese to English.)

I wish to do a good problem's explain.

 

Thank 

Eric

 

[Edward Z88]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for sending this across, I can confirm we have received this.

We will get back to you as soon as possible.

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello

 

I receive Mail today. I will try this new fixture this Wednesday. 

 

Thank Edward