FLX Users... Under what conditions do you use the FLX

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hi,

 

Just this post for having informations about all of us....

 

1 / You're form which country?

2 / How long have you been using the FLX ?

3 / Your configuration? FLX Alone? FLX + Wings? FLX + Touchscreen, etc?

4 / In what type of use? Show ? Theater ? other ?

5 / What kind of show? Dance? Comedy? Music? Other?

6 / What kind of projectors and matériel do you use?

7 / FLX Is it use in one place ? or Fly case because it is mobile?

8 / How many uses per week?

9 / Do you know of other FLX users around you?

10 / Have you had any worries? Resolved quickly?

Thanks for your help,

eric

[O Thompson]

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

1 / You're form which country?

England UK

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

2 / How long have you been using the FLX ?

Couple of months

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

3 / Your configuration? FLX Alone? FLX + Wings? FLX + Touchscreen, etc?

FLX and touch screen monitor

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

4 / In what type of use? Show ? Theater ? other ?

Education Environment - 300 cap theatre. 

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

5 / What kind of show? Dance? Comedy? Music? Other?

We have have multiple productions from musical theatre to music concerts, also a fair bit of conference stuff.

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

6 / What kind of projectors and matériel do you use?

Selection of LED pars, a LED fresnels and generic profiles and fresnels too. No moving heads though.

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

7 / FLX Is it use in one place ? or Fly case because it is mobile?

usually in a permanent location. Theatre control booth

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

8 / How many uses per week?

2 / 3 per week, but larger scale events are twice a year (musical productions and larger music concerts)

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

9 / Do you know of other FLX users around you?

No, but i have booked a training course at hawthorn in October, and i believe they also hire the equipment too.

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

10 / Have you had any worries? Resolved quickly?

No worries really, just some challenges getting to grips with the console as i wish to use it. My area of bias is audio, so my way thinking is a little different to the way the console is programmed.

 

 

[van den abbeele Eric]

thank a lot for your answers !

 

Eric

[danglen]

Originality from London but living in Munich.

Had the FLX with external monitor for couple of years now.

Mainly touring with The Legendary rock band in Europe and some local bands.

Even done a show in the French alps, in the snow, I couldn't feel the fingers from the cold, untill experienced Polish sound guy gave me a thermostat with honey tea mixed with vodka.

I used standard flight case for local shows and peli case for tours...im actually sitting on it now on the train to meet the band and doing ladies motorbike festival sonewhere in Germany.

Had some basic issues where a group of lights was not activating, so used a blinder to bilnd everyone then between songs reset the group's and was fine.

Ita a cool desk, but would be good to have a window Macro window next to Color pallets on external monitor, i don't like using the internal monitor so much.

Mixture of fixtures, every venue from 500 to 2000 capacity has standard stuff, pars, dimmers, movers, smoke.

 

[Afx]

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

1 / You're form which country?

Finland

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

2 / How long have you been using the FLX ?

Couple of weeks now.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

3 / Your configuration? FLX Alone? FLX + Wings? FLX + Touchscreen, etc?

Flx with touchscreen/IPad. 2x s24 with ipad.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

4 / In what type of use? Show ? Theater ? other ?

Corporate, events.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

5 / What kind of show? Dance? Comedy? Music? Other?

All kinds of. From corporate av to trance events to outdoor stuff up to a couple of thousands of attendees.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

6 / What kind of projectors and matériel do you use?

Led, moving heads, conventionals.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

7 / FLX Is it use in one place ? or Fly case because it is mobile?

Flightcase.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

8 / How many uses per week?

Looking at 1-4 gigs per week.

 

On 6/7/2019 at 1:23 PM, O Thompson said:

9 / Do you know of other FLX users around you?

 

Absolutely none apart from our own folks who are in training. This is chamsys/ma country.

On 6/6/2019 at 9:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

10 / Have you had any worries? Resolved quickly?

No big glitches so far, need to ask a few things on how to do stuff and some things are missing that id like to have. Not much though.

[Edward Z88]

Hello,

Really good to hear where FLX consoles are being used. 

1 hour ago, Afx said:

need to ask a few things on how to do stuff and some things are missing that id like to have. Not much though.

Please let us know if you need help with anything, and please let us know of any extra features or improvements you would like to see on the consoles. We’re always interested to hear the comments from users. 

All the best,

Edward

[Afx]

1 hour ago, Edward- Z88 said:

Hello,

Really good to hear where FLX consoles are being used. 

Please let us know if you need help with anything, and please let us know of any extra features or improvements you would like to see on the consoles. We’re always interested to hear the comments from users. 

All the best,

Edward

Cheers, I`ll put some up soon enough.

[van den abbeele Eric]

Thanks a lot for your answers.

It is interesting to see where our community of users is.

 

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For my part

I move from one place to another.

Using PAR Led, Moving Light and Traditional.

1 or 2 DMX universe for instances. 

In theaters and Performance place.
400 to 5000 people.

Use rather with the Master Playback for effects that follow each other.

Use with Capture 2018. (will update to 2019)

Am with the FLX, + 2 wings and touchscreen. (would like to use iPhone or iPad for having control on stage... But I ve always problem with IP configuration....)

I hate to go to 7.9.5 to see the improvements side effects. But for safety I prefer to stay on 7.9.4 until my last shows in July. Because here I start having good automatisms on the FLX and on a fast encoding ...

Even if I could evoke some problems on this console, I like it a lot. But I look forward to working with her this summer during my vacation with Capture to take things further on the possibilities it offers.

Thank you again for your contributions.

Eric VDA

[kgallen]

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

1 / You're form which country?

UK (South West England/South Wales).

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

2 / How long have you been using the FLX ?

Bought October 2015, so a relatively early adopter.

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

3 / Your configuration? FLX Alone? FLX + Wings? FLX + Touchscreen, etc?

FLX bare sometimes. More usually FLX+Touch Monitor+Mouse+Keyboard. Eric - to answer your question on "why a mouse", well because from my experience unless you are a 10 year old child, or you have points for fingers, things like the scroll bars or Effects Waveform tab are virtually impossible to use with adult/man-sized fingers. Hence needing to use the mouse!

No wings.

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

4 / In what type of use? Show ? Theater ? other ?

Theatre. Cue-stack based rather than busked.

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

5 / What kind of show? Dance? Comedy? Music? Other?

Musicals, pantomimes, some plays, some concerts.

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

6 / What kind of projectors and matériel do you use?

Conventionals (Source 4, Prelude, Minuette, PAR64), LED PAR/flood, LED mover, smoke machines/hazers. Sometimes DMX-controlled props.

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

7 / FLX Is it use in one place ? or Fly case because it is mobile?

In flight case, mobile.

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

8 / How many uses per week?

3-4 productions per year. Each production 7 or so performances. Amateur hobby, not paid unfortunately!

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

9 / Do you know of other FLX users around you?

I don't know any but there should be plenty around here... Zero88 head office is less than an hour drive from home!

On 6/6/2019 at 7:59 PM, van den abbeele Eric said:

10 / Have you had any worries? Resolved quickly?

Well documented on this forum when I have!

Kevin

[van den abbeele Eric]

thank a lot Kevin.

 

I will buy a Mouse and see what I feel with.

 

Take care

 

Eric

[hansreinhard]

Hi, here my answers:

I live in Munich, Germany

Use FLX since September 2019

FLX plus 1 wing plus touchscreen

Mainly theater, occasionally small concerts

We have 17 LED fresnel, 2 LED Profilers, 4 Moving Heads, some dimmers.

FLX is used stationary in a venue for 120 pax

2 to 5 shows a week.

I don't know any FLX user in bavaria, all hints came from the system house.

we used a Jester before, this was rock solid over years (but way too small for our new fixtures). FLX is a little trickier, we had some issues with 7.9.5, most of them were gone with 7.9.6. For me it is always a bit shocking, when the console will not boot up completely before a show (occasionally some of the funktions are missing, e.g. cursor up/down not working or touchscreen not showing up), a quick restart usually helps.

Always a bit struggling with the fade up- and down-times of cues: seems that I need to proggram the *down* time to get a nice *fade-in* - weird....

[Edward Z88]

Hello,

Thanks for your comments. 

9 hours ago, hansreinhard said:

Always a bit struggling with the fade up- and down-times of cues: seems that I need to proggram the *down* time to get a nice *fade-in* - weird....

Remember, when you Go into a cue, any lights that have to fade up to get to the programmed intensity will use the cue you’re going into’s up time, and any fixtures that have to go down to get to the programmed intensity will use the cue you’re going into’s down time. Therefore if you are going into a cue from a blackout, only the fade up times are relevant, and if you are going into a blackout only the fade down time is relevant. 

Hope this helps,

Edward

[martin-144]

4 hours ago, hansreinhard said:

I don't know any FLX user in bavaria, all hints came from the system house.

That is not true, hansreinhard. I am located in Starnberg and also use FLX. Good to know there's one around...

And just to complete the rest of the questions:

1 / You're form which country?

    Germany, Starnberg

2 / How long have you been using the FLX ?

   2 years now

3 / Your configuration? FLX Alone? FLX + Wings? FLX + Touchscreen, etc?

    FLX + Touchscreen

4 / In what type of use? Show ? Theater ? other ?

    Theatre, 200 pax, 2 shows per year

5 / What kind of show? Dance? Comedy? Music? Other?

    Theatre, adults and children

6 / What kind of projectors and matériel do you use?

    Lots of fresnels, adding some LED for FX, 1 MH

7 / FLX Is it use in one place ? or Fly case because it is mobile?

    Stationary for time of play

8 / How many uses per week?

    4-5, but not all year

9 / Do you know of other FLX users around you?

    Until hansreinhard posted, no.

10 / Have you had any worries? Resolved quickly?

    Continoulsy saving houselight into cues...

Regards,
Martin

[hansreinhard]

Edward, 

this is the way I expected the fades to work. 

in my example (screenshot!) cue #1 has no fade in or fade out. when I go to cue #2, it fades in in 10 seconds (as expected) BUT: cue #1 fades out in 3 sec.

Did I get anything wrong?

Have a nice weekend!

Hans

[Edward Z88]

Hi Hans,

38 minutes ago, hansreinhard said:

Edward, 

this is the way I expected the fades to work. 

in my example (screenshot!) cue #1 has no fade in or fade out. when I go to cue #2, it fades in in 10 seconds (as expected) BUT: cue #1 fades out in 3 sec.

 

That is correct. Don’t think of it as cues fading in/ fading out, think about what the fixtures do when you press GO. For example when you go into cue 2, any lights that have to fade down, use the down time of the cue 2. It therefore doesn’t matter if you run the cue list out of order. The fade down time of cue 1 would only be used if you went from a cue back to cue 1, and fixtures had to lower in intensity. 

Hope this helps,

 Edward

[hansreinhard]

3 hours ago, Edward- Z88 said:

Don’t think of it as cues fading in/ fading out,

Uh, that's crazy! I will try to keep that in my mind...

It's weired for me, because in my eyes every cue (=scene) should have it's fade-up and down time stored within.

That's the way, theatre people think...  in Jester it worked like this.

cheers! Hans

[hansreinhard]

@ Martin:

Good to know, that tere is somebody around!

You do  up to 5 five shows a *year*?? shure?

What about the rest of the year? Is it your own FLX or rental?

Greets from Muenchen 🙂

Hans

[martin-144]

Hi Hans,

I think you misunderstood. We are doing 2 shows per year, with 4-5 performances per week.
If you want further information, please contact me per PM. And yes, we use *Shure* Mics.

Thanks,
Martin

[Edward Z88]

Hi Hans,

12 hours ago, hansreinhard said:

Uh, that's crazy! I will try to keep that in my mind...

It's weired for me, because in my eyes every cue (=scene) should have it's fade-up and down time stored within.

That's the way, theatre people think...  in Jester it worked like this.

cheers! Hans

The way FLX handles cue fade times is the same way that Jesters work, with the down time effecting any fixtures fading out when go is pressed, not the speed of the previous lighting state to “fade out”. As far as I’m aware this is how all lighting console cue fades work. 

Edward

[kgallen]

1 hour ago, Edward- Z88 said:

As far as I’m aware this is how all lighting console cue fades work. 

And also effectively how we worked in the "old days" with a manual preset desk - executing the cue was by moving a number of master (or group) faders from max to min, so the "down" time for lights in cue (n-1) was enacted by the speed we moved the outgoing scene fader from max to min when enacting cue n. Similarly the "up" time was for the incoming cue n.

[hansreinhard]

thank you, Edward,

got it now....

hansreinhard

[Edward Z88]

Hi Hans,

20 minutes ago, hansreinhard said:

thank you, Edward,

got it now....

hansreinhard

Glad to hear it! Any questions let us know.

Edward

[van den abbeele Eric]

Hello

 

happy to see all différents person that use FLX ! 

Thank to other users to speak about their FLX use !

 

Take care and Happy new year !