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van den abbeele Eric

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Hello again,

another important question.

I explain!

During the recording, when one makes changes of atmosphere and that one does not wish to record, to press twice clear button, allows to return to the base of the things before the tests of changes. It is convenient.

In Show, logically there is a scroll of cues. But sometimes it can happen that we must manually add something, because the dancers for example are not in their places ...
Except that to clear (double clear) is seen concretely on stage, because several lights that suddenly turn out to be seen too much ...
Is there an option in this double clear that allows you to fade between what you have changed and what has been recorded?
The idea is that this is less visible ...

I will have the option of an update, but it does not necessarily make me see that the patch on a show is not necessarily good for other shows ...  

 

thank for your help...

 

Take care, 

 

eric VDA

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Hi Eric,

1 hour ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

During the recording, when one makes changes of atmosphere and that one does not wish to record, to press twice clear button, allows to return to the base of the things before the tests of changes. It is convenient.

In Show, logically there is a scroll of cues. But sometimes it can happen that we must manually add something, because the dancers for example are not in their places ...
Except that to clear (double clear) is seen concretely on stage, because several lights that suddenly turn out to be seen too much ...
Is there an option in this double clear that allows you to fade between what you have changed and what has been recorded?
The idea is that this is less visible ...

As Martin says, this is something Programmer Time can do for you. For more information on this, see the article below...

http://support.zero88.com/1011402011

All the best,

Edward

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Thank.

A other question Edward ...

I go on the article like you told me, but on the screen, there is playback 1 to 24, and so an... 

Is it working also with Master playback ?

 

In fact what I think is missing is a kind of mode that is on one side to record and the other to play, on which we can add things without it changes anything to the memories ... That what is added manually during a show can remain like priority value, and that it can return to the values program in fade when the added things are not any more useful ...

Indeed in artistic dance show, I record all the events with "shift + recording" (no tracking) so as to have each Cues with all the elements of recorded (as much what is lit that what is not alight. )
So when I then add things in a cue, normally I do not have to go to the next to take into account the added things. (though sometimes it does not always work ...)

 

Then I think my need is special because in 90% of shows, nobody sees if a projector is added or not, because in many cases, the lighting is aesthetic to give a good dimension to a concert. There or in a dance show, everything is visible and important.
So each cue supports what happens on stage ...
And catching up is essential to make everything bright ...

Thank you for your listening and your patience ...

 

 

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Hi Eric,

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

I go on the article like you told me, but on the screen, there is playback 1 to 24, and so an... 

Is it working also with Master playback ?

The Programmer Time playback can be configured to be on any empty playback, including the Master. Alternatively you can always access programmer time by pressing Z -> and use the fourth encoder wheel.

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

In fact what I think is missing is a kind of mode that is on one side to record and the other to play, on which we can add things without it changes anything to the memories ... That what is added manually during a show can remain like priority value, and that it can return to the values program in fade when the added things are not any more useful ...

I believe Programmer Time will achieve what you're after. When enabled, all syntax, and also CLEAR CLEAR, will fade using the Programmer Time, allowing live changes to be subtle. 

15 hours ago, van den abbeele Eric said:

Indeed in artistic dance show, I record all the events with "shift + recording" (no tracking) so as to have each Cues with all the elements of recorded (as much what is lit that what is not alight. )
So when I then add things in a cue, normally I do not have to go to the next to take into account the added things. (though sometimes it does not always work ...)

If you press and hold RECORD, from the Record options ensure that SmartTag is enabled with a red stripe, and ensure "Cue Only" has a red stripe. This will ensure updates and records won't track. When you have done this press RECORD to close the window, and from now on you can simply press RECORD. You should find this gives you more useful cues than a SHIFT + RECORD - give it a go and see what you think.

Hope this helps,

Edward

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If you press and hold RECORD, from the Record options ensure that SmartTag is enabled with a red stripe, and ensure "Cue Only" has a red stripe. This will ensure updates and records won't track. When you have done this press RECORD to close the window, and from now on you can simply press RECORD. You should find this gives you more useful cues than a SHIFT + RECORD - give it a go and see what you think.

Hope this helps,

 

I don't understand the difference between "duck + record" and "Hold record" ? So I see in your explain, that if I use Hold Record, I must press One time Record for close the window and one time more for recording... So for me it taking more time to do Three operation for recording.

My problem on Artistic danse, that we have about 8 hour for recording about 300 Cues with more than 60 fixtures... And I must go the most quickly possible...

 

Thank for your help dear Edward, (The man with so much answers and solutions.... )

 

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Hi Eric, 

You will only need to press and hold RECORD once. Pressing and holding RECORD opens the Record Options window in the internal touchscreen, meaning you can easily access the options. In this window ensure SmartTag and Cue Only are selected. If they are, you can tap RECORD to close the window. Now, for all future cues, you can simply create your lighting state, tap RECORD, followed by pressing where you wish to store onto.

Hope this helps, 

Edward

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Hello,

To understand a little more on this option "time programmer".

From what I read, if I want to enter "2s" of time for the clear button to be fade, for all other actions it will take 2 seconds ...?

Does this imply that it plays on the fades when we press the "GO" button of the master fader?

Does this also affect the actions of parameter modifications of the fixtures? (Color, Beam, Position, Etc ...)

thanks for the help

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Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 //  ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w  - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC

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Hello,

When Programmer Time is enabled, the set fade time will be applied to syntax, clearing the programmer, manually releasing playbacks, and palettes. 

There are also some other functions that use the timings, as listed in the knowledge base article.

Cue timings will not be effected. Speed Override, also available on the encoders when you press Z/SHIFT, can be used to speed up or slow down cue timings live.

Hope this helps,

Edward

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hello

 

The programmer time is exactly what I Was needing.

In fact, I find this option really good. Because like you've said, it's working for all the action !

 

Thank for your help.

 

Eric VDA (France )

1 FLX + 1 wing  "7.14" + 1  FLX "7.13" & 3 Wings  / 2 Touchscreen  // Jester 24/48 

2 Swisson XND-4R5 ENode  // Stairville : 5 Wash MZH 19X15w  - 31 Retro Flat Par 18X 12w RGBW 

Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 //  ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w  - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC

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Thank for your help.

 

Just a other question 

when I using in (Setup,  Clear Option ) "Reset Desk", is it clearing Time Programmer in Off ?

 

thank

 

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Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 //  ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w  - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC

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Hi Eric,

Programmer Time is not changed when performing a "Reset Desk". Reset Desk clears all show-specific information, however leaves operator configuration, such as Programmer Time. A Factory Reset will reset the Programmer Time to disabled, and with a 5 second fade.

Hope this helps,

Edward

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thank Edward

1 FLX + 1 wing  "7.14" + 1  FLX "7.13" & 3 Wings  / 2 Touchscreen  // Jester 24/48 

2 Swisson XND-4R5 ENode  // Stairville : 5 Wash MZH 19X15w  - 31 Retro Flat Par 18X 12w RGBW 

Electroconcept : 36 Wash 18 X 10w Q188 //  ADJ 2 Spot Focus 4Z & 2 Spot Focus 5Z Led 200w  - VARYTEC : 12 Varytec Hero Wash 300 FC

LedStage : 5 PARWASH 19 X 15w // 10 Spot 200w // 19 Wash Par 12 X 18W   // 2 BOWLDER 12X40w WASH // 11 PARZOOM 19 X 15w

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