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How to control the FLX S Buttons remotely from ZerOS Monitor?

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Hello,

Is there a way to trigger these buttons from the ZerOs monitor app:-

  1. Z / Shift Key (toggle)
  2. Channel / Playback (toggle)
  3. Page Change 1..48:49..96 (toggle)
     
  4. Record
  5. Update
  6. Delete
     
  7. Setup
  8. Clear
  9. View 

Reason:-

Since the ZerOS Monitor displays what is on the FLX S external monitor of the console, therefore from my PC (or iPad), I can only control and see whatever is actually displayed on the external monitor.  So when the console powers on in "Channels" mode, if I am not near the console, there is no way I can control the "Playbacks" unless someone at the console presses the "Playback / Channels" button.

Likewise, pressing the "View" button will affect the monitor, etc.

So is there a way to have these buttons "pressed remotely" via the app?  Perhaps a keyboard shortcut?  It would be ideal to have full remote control of the console via an App.

There is already the ability to change between "Programming" and "Palettes" in the ZerOS Monitor App by pressing the on-screen button with a mouse or finger.  Perhaps additional buttons could be added here for: "Channels/Playbacks", "Views", "Page Change 1..48:49..96", etc.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi Matthew,

7 hours ago, MatthewD said:

Is there a way to trigger these buttons from the ZerOs monitor app:

I have replied to your other post regarding keyboard shortcuts. The only other one to mention is that CTRL + Z on an external keyboard is the same as tapping Z/Shift on the console.

6 hours ago, MatthewD said:

Since the ZerOS Monitor displays what is on the FLX S external monitor of the console, therefore from my PC (or iPad), I can only control and see whatever is actually displayed on the external monitor. 

This will change in the next software update, ZerOS 7.9.5, which will allow for the remote monitor to be viewing a different desktop to the console.

6 hours ago, MatthewD said:

So when the console powers on in "Channels" mode, if I am not near the console, there is no way I can control the "Playbacks" unless someone at the console presses the "Playback / Channels" button.

The ZerOS Remote app for iPad will allow you to control Playbacks irrespective of the channel mode on the console. To do this connect to the console, and choose Playbacks from the page chooser drop down at the bottom of the app.

6 hours ago, MatthewD said:

Likewise, pressing the "View" button will affect the monitor, etc.

To stop the VIEW button controlling the external monitor, and instead control the internal touchscreen, tap SETUP -> System Settings -> External Monitor -> Disabled.

6 hours ago, MatthewD said:

So is there a way to have these buttons "pressed remotely" via the app?  Perhaps a keyboard shortcut?  It would be ideal to have full remote control of the console via an App.

See your other post for keyboard shortcuts...

 

6 hours ago, MatthewD said:

There is already the ability to change between "Programming" and "Palettes" in the ZerOS Monitor App by pressing the on-screen button with a mouse or finger.  Perhaps additional buttons could be added here for: "Channels/Playbacks", "Views", "Page Change 1..48:49..96", etc.

You will notice in ZerOS 7.9.5 there are a couple of new desktops introduced.

Hope this helps, any queries let me know.

Edward

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Thank you Edward for your response, and for all the developments in the new version.  

I have installed the latest Beta release and I can see the new options on the External monitor.  It's so much better, but still missing a few options to enable control when not at the console, (eg controlling the lights via an iPad or laptop):-

Could you please include the controls:-

  1. A virtual button for changing the Fader Display to be "Channels" or "Playbacks".
    1. ie on the external monitor, in the bottom half, in the MFF display window, when "Fader" is selected: please include the ability to choose Playbacks or Channels on the ZerOS Monitor app.
  2. The ability to select pages "1..48" or "49..96", on the ZerOS Monitor app.

I know you can change apps to the "Remote" app to change these, but it inconvenient during live support, and would be better if it was all in the same app, ie ZerOS Monitor.

Thanks in advance.

Matthew

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Hi Matthew,

Thank you for your comments.

We have had a couple of requests to remotely change the fader function. This is possible on the larger FLX console through programming a macro. This is already logged on our system. We haven’t currently scheduled which version of ZerOS this will be included in.

All the best,

Edward

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Hi Edward,

Thanks for your reply.

If possible, can this please be escalated, as this feature is really important to our situation.  The use case is:-

  1. A user turns on the whole venue from a Touch Panel inside the performance space, which powers up the FLX S48 (via a networked PDU).  (But the rack and FLX S is located 2 mins walk away, up many stairs in a BioBox.)
  2. The user turns on the iPad and connects to the FLX S via "ZerOS Remote Monitor" app to control the lighting remotely.
  3. The user still CANNOT control the lighting because they have to walk up to the biobox and press just ONE button, ie "Playbacks" in order to control the playback scenes from the iPad.
  4. Once pressed, the lighting scenes can be fully controlled for the production via the iPad.

I am hoping it's a small change in code, and quickly implementable, as this would allow instant control of lighting upon startup on the console without having the inconvenience and delay of walking.

PS - we have just purchased 3x FLX S48's and 3x FLX S24's, under the impression that these could be controlled via an iPad, but this issue is currently preventing us from delivering this feature to a large Educational Institution. 

Regards,

Matthew.

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Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the explanation.

Planned for a future software update, there will be an option in Setup which will allow you to choose the boot Fader Function. Therefore you can ensure the console always boots in Playback’s if you wish, avoiding the need to change the function.

I will ensure that the priority is raised due to your request.

Hope this helps, any queries let me know. 

Edward

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Hi Edward,  

Thanks again for your response.  This is a very productive thread.

So can you please confirm that this is the current answer to my initial questions, combined from multiple threads and messages:-

Controlling FLX S via a keyboard in "ZerOS Remote Monitor" App (on PC/Laptop or Tablet):-

  • Z / Shift Key (toggle)                                   Cntl + Z   (To exit "Quick Access Functions", press Cntl + Z again.)
    (Enters "Quick Access Functions", but this is only displayed on the Internal screen, not the external monitor.)
  • Channel / Playback (toggle)                      Not currently possible; however a "boot up option" will exist in ZerOS 7.9.5 when you can choose which option to display by default.
  • Page Change 1..48:49..96 (toggle)          Not currently possible, and not planned for next OS release.
     
  • Record                         Not currently possible, and not planned for next OS release.
                                          (To get out of this menu press "Backspace" ie Clear.)
  • Update                         Not currently possible, and not planned for next OS release.
                                          (To get out of this menu press "Backspace" ie Clear.)
  • Delete                          Not currently possible, and not planned for next OS release.
                                          (To get out of this menu press "Backspace" ie Clear.)
     
  • Setup                            Shift + F10     (To get out of this Menu press Shift + F10 again.)
  • Clear                             Backspace
  • View                              In ZeroS 7.9.5 there are virtual buttons to select which view/desktop to display
     
  • System Information    Shift + F9
  • Help                               Shift + Left + Right     (To exit Help, press Shift + Left + Right again.)
                                            (or F1 , though this is often buggy.)
  • Lock                               Left + Right + Enter
  • Go                                   Spacebar
  • Exit                                 Alt + F4      (This doesn't work in the App, and it closes screens on the external monitor !?!)
     
  • Thru                               >
  •                                    * OR @
  • Except                            -
  • And                                 +
  • Full                                 Page Up
  • Rem Dim                       Shift + Page Up

There are also some shortcuts available:-

  • Set Intensity to 100%         @@ 
  • Set Intensity to 0%             @.      [ie at dot] 
  • Select all channels that are currently on (ie above 0%)        Enter Enter [ie Enter Enter]  

References:-

  1. Keyboard shortcuts compatible with a keyboard/ZerOS Remote Monitor [http://support.zero88.com/998481801]
  2. Syntax Page in the FLX training notes is also applicable for FLX S, with the exception of a few buttons FLX S doesn't have. [http://support.zero88.com/1011387501]
  3. Syntax Overview [ https://eaton.nanorep.co/storage/nr1/kb/2AD62C9/3879A76B/3C488C6D/2/Syntax Overview.pdf]

 

Please confirm if these are correct, and I will create a document to send to our Venue Supervisors for controlling the FLX S's.

Thanks in advance,

Matthew

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Hi Matthew,

Yes, these are correct.

The only one that isn't correct is Backspace is not mapped to the CLEAR button. Backspace simply allows you to go back through your command line to the next comma. This is shown at the bottom of the external monitor or above the encoders when you tap Z/Shift.

Hope this helps,

Edward

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