Using bump/flash keys to select fixtures

[Howartp]

Hi.

 

I've just added two more LED strips which are programmed as 8x RGB fixtures.

 

We have them on fixture channels 13-20, and their respective channel numbers on the following pages.

 

I've discovered tonight, having added the new ones, that the bump keys on page 5 and upwards aren't selecting channels. I can type 109-116 and the screen shows me the correct fixtures and params on the encoders, but using the bump keys on channels 109-116 (page 5) don't do anything.

 

Is this a software setting we need to turn on that we've forgotten we'd previously done for other channels, or a PICNIC, or a bug? ("Problem In Chair, Not In Computer" if you were wondering!)

Peter

[Edward Z88]

Hi Peter,

 

Hmm thats very strange, Ive been trying to recreate this for a while and havent been able to. Channels page 5 using the bottom row of fader buttons selects channels 109-120.

 

Can you confirm the faders have control of your lights intensity, however its just the buttons that arent selecting? If you send me your showfile Ill take a look to see whats happening.

 

Kind regards

Edward

[Howartp]

Ive just moved two LED pars from 300+ down to 47+48 and theyre not working either.

 

Youre correct, theres no fader control either. But, if you select 47 thru 48 with keyboard, the channel LEDs light up.

 

Actually, if I press 47 bump key, the command line shows Select fixture 47 - so its seeing the button press but not reacting to it...

 

Ill upload file when my operator arrives soonish - my USB key doesnt work! :-)

[Howartp]

Aha....

Methinks it is a bug. (We're on 7.9.2 but not .50)

If I power off and on again, the buttons start working, so 109-116 are working currently but 47-48 arent. Power off the desk and back on, 47-48 now working.

Peter

[Howartp]

Showfile attached.

October Concert 2017.isf

[Edward Z88]

Hi Peter,

 

I have been playing with your showfile and can't seem to recreate the issue after changing addresses/leaving the console for a while. Do you know when the buttons/faders stop becoming responsive, is it after a long time of operation?

 

Kind regards

Edward

[kgallen]

Ed,

 

I failed quite early on trying to help out with this one. So after having the issue loading a 7.8.5 show, reported elsewhere, I failed to find out how to change the Channel-mode MFF buttons from select into channel flash buttons! Setup+MFF button (Channel mode) does not bring up any kind of setup window along the lines of those same key presses when the MFFs are set to Playback mode.

 

I found nothing in the manual, so took it that these buttons can't actually be flash/solo/whatever buttons and they are always select buttons.

 

But I'm thinking I must be wrong in this conclusion.... So how do I make the MFF buttons into channel flash buttons as if I understand correctly, that's what we're trying to do here!

 

Thanks,

Kevin

[Edward Z88]

Hi Kevin,

 

Currently you can't change the function of the fader buttons when in channel mode - they are select buttons.

However we are looking at giving the option to configure the buttons to be Select, Flash, Solo and Latch functions.

 

This option won't be coming to ZerOS 7.9.3, but will be soon after.

 

Kind regards

Edward

[kgallen]

Cheers Ed! Good to know, thanks.

 

I think I need yet more new glasses as Howartp does clearly say he's trying to select channels not flash them. I think the term "bump buttons" threw me!

[Howartp]

Hi Peter,

 

I have been playing with your showfile and can't seem to recreate the issue after changing addresses/leaving the console for a while. Do you know when the buttons/faders stop becoming responsive, is it after a long time of operation?

 

Kind regards

Edward

I only got the desk out on Saturday afternoon, for next weekends show - it's been in the storeroom since our Panto at February half term.

 

The patch is the same as Feb so I just kept the existing show as stored in the desk, deleted the cuestack, patched in the two (previously unused) RGB strips as eight RGB (3ch) fixtures in 109-116 then immediately tried to use those channel select buttons on page 5.

 

Having messed about all day, but never powered down 'till I went home, I didn't get anywhere.

 

I came back to it on Sunday afternoon and repatched from ch300+ down to ch 47-48 two of our 7ch LED PARs. That's when I realised channel select on 47-48 wasn't working either (it didn't select the channels, ie they didn't appear in the orange "table" that pops up with fixture name and param values, and the encoder wheels didn't populate with params) BUT, shortly after, I realised that page 5 was now working. So I tried a reboot of the desk and ch47-48 started working.

 

So it's something to do with patching/repatching then trying to use channel select buttons before you've power cycled.

 

Cheers Ed! Good to know, thanks.

 

I think I need yet more new glasses as Howartp does clearly say he's trying to select channels not flash them. I think the term "bump buttons" threw me!

Hehe, sorry - I thought I was being right good calling them that as I know other consoles i've used previously called them that, but as I've only used three consoles in my life I might be completely unlucky to have used non-commonly-named buttons!

 

Peter