Combined Monitor Screens

[lxkev]

just a quick one :?

 

Could we have a display like on the sirus????? i.e showing submaster data, pallets, next mem...etc...could implement fade times etc.....

 

and ages ago I mentioned about displaying submaster name's in the lcd window "as read only"......will this be in the next update????

[K-Nine]

just a quick one :?

 

Could we have a display like on the sirus????? i.e showing submaster data, pallets, next mem...etc...could implement fade times etc.....

 

Which display on the Sirius (250 I assume) ... LCD or monitor ?

Aren't all the things you mentioned already displayed on one or more monitor screens :wink:

 

just a quick one :?

 

and ages ago I mentioned about displaying submaster name's in the lcd window "as read only"......will this be in the next update????

 

Yes, this is in the next update

For details of the next update package see the Software Releases Forum CLICK HERE

[lxkev]

well all the things i mentioned are somewhere on the desk...but there isn't a screen which shows everything...i.e.

 

when busking a show...it would be nice to see at one time what your subs masters are and pallets...also i meant a count down on fade time's

 

basically could just be a table

 

SUB P1 c b P

1 chase 1 White 1 Open 1 Cyc

2 cyc 2 Greene 2 Strob 2 Move

3 f/h 3 blue 3 Gobo1 3 Macs

4 limes 4 pink 4 4

5 5 fg 5 5

 

 

Then at the bottom of the page have a count down of fade times...

 

update looks good!!! "think i might start to love the desk!"

[Kirkup_xp]

Can I suggest something quick to pop into the next update:

 

An option for a "memory/output" screen. Basically instead of a full page of cues, you get half a screen of cues and a table giving you the current channel output levels. This would be EXTREMELY useful!

User interface wise, can I suggest pressing and holding "Memory" whilst pressing "Output" and both LEDs become lit. A single press on either Memory or Output would switch to their screens.

 

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

 

 

This could also easily be implemented into the submasters screen, although i'm not sure there would be enough room on the Bullfrog screen to fit all 24 subs into the top half of the screen, although you could use a keypress to switch between subs 1>12 and 13>24.

[K-Nine]

I think that on this occasion it may be a little too late to "quickly pop" this new functionality into the desk software

 

Although this may on the surface appear to be a quick and simple change, we would have to think through what impact it would have on the memories and submaster screens on all the Frog range of desks, and presumably, for consistency, the SX screen on the Mambo Frog.

 

Any new or modified functionality has to be fully specified, approved, implemented and tested before it can be released.

 

Frog Reference No 5467 - Combined Memory/Outputs Screen (also Submaster/Outputs and SX/Outputs screens) - to be reviewed.

[Haytech]

Hi guys,

It´s just a sugeestion / question of posibbility

When a desk is in palette lock mode half the screen is empty so my sugestion is to show the Output screen in the other half of screen to see what is going on.

[-=Phantom=-]

Worth investing in maybe? I constantly used both the submaster and the memories screens (on the monitor). Would it be possible to get an extra monitor output to make it a tad easier. It was a tad annoying flicking between them constantly.

 

You would set up an effect on the submaster (e.g. a curtain warmer), go back to pragram it, and then they change their mind.........

 

Back and forwards.....

[sam.henderson]

Yes dual monitor support would be good though I doubt it could be implemented without adding another monitor port at the back and also doing a medium sized rewrite of the software.

 

Sam

[sp]

I know it's not anywhere near as ideal as dual monitor output (and I think that's a gr8 idea) but note that it is possible to lock the monitor to a specific screen whilst viewing another on the LCD:

 

"In normal operation the monitor display will “follow†the Main LCD on the front panel and display the corresponding screen or popup window.

 

The FUNCTION button F1 is used as the “Monitor Functions†button.

The main monitor screens can be selected and locked by holding down

the F1 button and then pressing a front panel button as shown below:

 

MEMORIES - Memories Screen

SUBMASTERS -Submasters Screen

OUTPUTS - Outputs Screen

FIXTURE SEL- Fixture O/P Screen

COLOUR - Palette Screen (Col)

BEAMSHAPE - Palette Screen (B/S)

POSITION - Palette Screen (Pos)

GROUP - Fixture Groups Screen

 

When the monitor screen is locked, the red light in the F1 button is lit, and

“SCR LOCKED†is displayed in the PSI section of the monitor screen.

Pressing the F1 button again unlocks the monitor screen."

 

sp

[Paul]

You could always load the show onto Phantom Frog on your laptop, and use that to show other screens, while the live data is displayed on the Real Frog monitor / LCD displays. Might be useful if you just want to see palette names, find a memory, look at the patch etc. while you're running your show.

[-=Phantom=-]

You could always load the show onto Phantom Frog on your laptop, and use that to show other screens, while the live data is displayed on the Real Frog monitor / LCD displays. Might be useful if you just want to see palette names, find a memory, look at the patch etc. while you're running your show.

Ahhh, nice idea, didnt think of that one! Can the Phantom Frog support dual monitor output! LOL

[K-Nine]

Can the PC or laptop running the Phantom Frog software support a dual monitor output :twisted:

[-=Phantom=-]

Can the PC or laptop running the Phantom Frog software support a dual monitor output :twisted:

It most certainly can! It's kinda hard to fit a BullFrog onto a normal 17" screen.

[K-Nine]

I appreciate the problem of getting a Bull Frog front panel on a monitor screen - these issues are covered in the Phantom Frog forum.

 

If the show you are working on has less than 48 generic channels and only uses one DMX universe, you could always set up the Phantom Frog to be a Leap Frog - much narrower front panel

[ice]

When using pallets you don't have to watch the ouputs. I rarely use the fixture details screen under F1&Fixture button because it tells you nothing... okay you're getting the list of attributes, and the color is at DMX value 58. Yippie-ka-yee i don't need that info Now if you could process the color specifications from the fixture files there.. :twisted:

[sp]

It's not ideal but it has been suggested before to have a laptop beside the desk, so you could use the phantom frog to show a particular screen.

Obviously any changes would have to be updated on the phantom, but you could show your cues on there and just click the on-screen Go button when pressing the real one, not ideal as I say, but just a suggestion...

 

sp

[Kresten Bager]

Hi all,

 

Say I am running a show partly from my memory stack and partly from my palettes. Is it possible to view my memory stack while I have palette lock on?

 

Best regards

 

Kresten Bager

 

P.s. The software is really moving ahead with v10! Great work.

[minimac]

i wouldn't of thort so, as the idea of pallet lock is to lock the pallet window onto the screen.

 

were you thinking of having, say the memory button, that when held down would flash back to the cue stack? could be nice, but its not a feature that i know about.

[Paul]

If the monitor is locked on palettes, you can still see your memory stack on the LCD on the desk.

 

The idea of locking a monitor screen is that it's locked, it could quickly start to get messy if you introduced exceptions to this, for some people it would be great, others may hate it

 

Not sure how feasible split screens would be with the Frog's text display. Frog2 does split screens very nicely though. Plus it has 2 monitors to play with.

[ice]

Maybe a stupid idea, but couldn't the flash buttons be used for pallet triggering when the flash mode is at "off"? That way you wouldn't have to lock the pallet screen and the memories or submasters stay visible on the LCD. It's not really a problem that the names aren't shown, but otherwise you need 2 hands for pallet selection while locking frees one of them.

[Kresten Bager]

Yes Ice,

 

I was rether hoping to keep one hand free for submasters & the playback X and one hand for pallets...

 

Paul a split graphic option would be sweet but like you say a Frog 2 would be even sweeter :-)

 

Best regards

Kresten

[tygrysm]

Split screens are available on Compulite range (also text graphics) and it works very nice.

 

eg Spark 4D.

 

As split screen I mean views displaying information about submasters, fixture channels and crossfader state at the same time.

[Paul]

Is that a fair comparison? Spark 4D is up in the Frog2 price range, and Frog2 would compare very favourably with it.

[tygrysm]

I know, but I just wanted to say that it is possible to make it with text mode graphics.

 

Edit: IMO Mambo Frog is much nicer desk than Spark 4D although it is much cheaper.

[dougmorgan743]

Coming from a Strand background it would be useful to see cue list and live outputs on one screen.

 

It could be an option in super user, only has to be a display similar to edit that could be shown at the bottom of the screen.

What do people think?

 

Doug