litux Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 can i limit max % output value into dmx patch for conventional channels ? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWR88 Posted October 15, 2002 Report Share Posted October 15, 2002 Dear Sir, No you are unable to deal with conventionals in that manner as they are taken from the faders. Quote Regards, Keith Rogers Zero 88 Support: support@zero88.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parr hall mike Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 it`s my first real go at trying lighting design, with very little formal training. somebody else will set the lighting rig up, i`ll sit at the frog and plot it for the show, usually the rigging`s pretty damn hot, so theres no need for a refocus or anything. Anyway, theres a few issues regarding the frog i was wondering if you could help me out with, coz i`m a bit thick 1. Has it got a `top set`. As in being able to drop channel levels in the middle of playing back a set of scene memories. I`ve spoken to two more experienced people about it, both who have been using the frog for a while, one says there is absolutely no top set, the other says there isn`t, but you can do it `backwards`. (is that to set all the levels at their lowest usable settings upon plotting, and raise them with the subs} Only that sounds like trying to get around quite a large design flaw, and not creating a top set at all 2. Is there any way of mixing chases and scenes easily*q* without plotting 600 scenes for about 10 minutes of show... Thats all. i`ll come up with a few more when i`ve done more complicated show. Taiko drummers and community plays have yet to test my skills. Haha. Mike p pyramid arts centre, warrington. NB - its a nice desk, btw. dead easy to use for beginners like me who`ve never plotted stuff before. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nine Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Hi Mike, No, there is not a topset feature on the Frog range I'm afraid, however it has been logged for future consideration... Frog Reference 5417 - Topset The easiest way to mix scenes and chases is to stick your chases on a submaster, and put your scenes in the Playback X stack. You can overlay chases on any other cue. Quote K-Nine : Technically Advanced Roving Dog In Space Bran Media | Myspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixgeiger Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 hello everybody what about another fancy function of good old sirius 250 (and i think even on sirius 24): it was called topset. it was a way to reduce htp-output individually for each channel with a preset fader. you would have a scene in the playback X or in a submaster. you like the output except the one single fresnel that shines onto the projection screen (which it shouldn't). now i want to leave the scene but reduce the level of this one fresnel. (avolites have this as reduction faders, and celco used to have them as a knob on top of each channel (cf gain knob at a sound desk) i know those desk do cost a lot more, it was just to prove that some other companies consider it to be a useful feature... i don't know if i made myself clear, if not ask me, but if you did, then give it a frog reference no. ... :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxkev Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 I aint posted on here in ages :? :roll: but ive got an idea, well actual its of another companys desk but i thought it would be very simple in terms of user interface 2 acheive this. MASKING How many of u have had a fixture go nutts or get un-focus and nicely blind the audience, then have to go through every mem to remove then to re add it later when ya sorted it!!??? well wat if u held the channel flash button/fixture button and blackout at the same time, this selection of buttons will set those dmx channels to 0. how would we know its been masked? well on the vga the channel could be a different colour? and the LED in the flash buttons flash very fast? Quote I need a new job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haytech Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Hi This indeed sounds great - kind of functions look. Quote Sebastian H. Pro - Sound Showtechnik The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. Albert Einstein "You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun" Al Capone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicole Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Hi, I was wondering whether there was an easy way to allow access to the Topset levels on the Fat Frog. Very often when working live (or even on a pre-programmed show), you need a quick method of topsetting as the memory has been programmed with something that really doesnt look good or a lamp blows on one circuit and the other one still works etc. On the Illusion, you press the Topset button and set your level, this takes a mere seconds. On the Frog, you have to go to Super User mode and topset (I seem to remember) - and this takes tens of seconds. Any plans to put this feature into the next release? Quote backSTAGE Theatre Supplies LTD Specialists in Lighting / Staging / Consultancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 somekind of editing an memory output while another is running? Quote Move while dark! -> GOGOGO! Thank you Zero for the FR 5402 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nine Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 somekind of editing an memory output while another is running? If you are referring to Edit Blind ... this was implemented in Version 9 .. CLICK HERE Topset isn't yet implemented on the Frog series, but is already a feature request (Frog Reference 5417). We also have the following logged: Frog Reference 5415 - Inhibit Function Quote K-Nine : Technically Advanced Roving Dog In Space Bran Media | Myspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 The number of official requests on this forum for a topset feature has crossed the critical amount of somewhere between three and five (approximately). Hurray, it has a FRN-5417 ! (Remember that old gray desk? Although equipped with 512 digital outputs, only 1 to 24 ( /48 ) were topsetting. That will be sufficient.) :arrow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59099 Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 <bump> Also would love the topset.... Ahhh.. that gray desk.... sweet memorries, got mine 10 year ago, it had more then 6 faders... Oh wel teenage love... (When I learned lighting we just upgraded from a mobile 6 channel rig, to a fixed 18 channel grid with a sirius 24...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickwoolley Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Must say TopSet would be pretty useful! Has anyone found a work around to do a similar thing during a live running show? Quote What if... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 A workaround is not possible. It's the same problem when trying to correct a scene to decrease a certain channel level: recreate the complete scene on the faders (while reading the values from the screen, if connected), and then adjust the thing. My best time to complete a scene with 24 fader channels (while sying "mmmmmwwwwrrrrgggggggffffhhhhh") is approx. 53.9471826 seconds. In my opinion, it's a shortcoming (...to difficult) and part of the system design. It's a club desk, and less a theatre desk. Program with care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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