Default value not working

[Charlie Newman]

So I recently created a custom fixture and set the default value on the strobe channel to 5, but it shows as two on the light when selected? No playbacks or cues are overriding it so I'm quite lost, any help would be appreciated

[kgallen]

Can you upload your fixture file? Not sure if you made it in the console or the Windows Fixture Editor. If the console I think there is a way to export it but I don’t know the format!

Either that or share the manual and I’ll knock one up in the FE for you to play with. 

[Davidmk]

@kgallen @Charlie Newman Hmm. A DMX value of 5 (out of 255) is pretty much 2 and I think the fixture profile works in DMX value while the display works in %. If in doubt check the manual and/or the DMX output window.

[Charlie Newman]

31 minutes ago, kgallen said:

Can you upload your fixture file?

Here's the ZerOS Fixture File, I can make one in the FE, is it worth it or will the issue reoccur?

FS File.zfix

[Charlie Newman]

5 minutes ago, Davidmk said:

Hmm. A DMX value of 5 (out of 255) is pretty much 2 and I think the fixture profile works in DMX value while the display works in %. If in doubt check the manual and/or the DMX output window.

Ah yeah, that would make sense, thanks!

[kgallen]

Interesting. Intensity in % I understand. I thought other parameters would be their absolute value. Good call @Davidmk.

[Davidmk]

You're welcome. The acid test is "Does the fixture perform as expected?".

[kgallen]

Give me 10 to finish dinner, then I’ll knock something up in FE 2.6 and Charlie can see if it reports the same. 

[Charlie Newman]

5 minutes ago, kgallen said:

Give me 10 to finish dinner, then I’ll knock something up in FE 2.6 and Charlie can see if it reports the same. 

Sounds good

[kgallen]

OK give this a bash. On channel 3, I've added detail (which I made up). 0-4 is "Closed", 5 is "Default", 6-255 is "Open".

Ch1 default (Dimmer [Intensity])=255, Ch2 (Wheel [Colour])default=0, Ch3 (Strobe [Beamshape])default=5

These are the "Details" for ch3:

Let's see what comes up for the Strobe channel by default...

Put this on a USB stick and just use "Load" to get it in the desk. Then you'll have to patch, Manufacturer="Charlie", Fixture="Followspot 3ch"

Charlie_FS.ift

[Charlie Newman]

Yup @kgallen, works like the other one (other than showing when closed/open), interesting that shows in %, personally I'd rather 1-255. Thanks for the help!

[kgallen]

26 minutes ago, Charlie Newman said:

Yup @kgalleninteresting that shows in %, personally I'd rather 1-255. Thanks for the help!

Yea weird. I wonder if there is a desk setting for that. I know it’s a topic that comes up every now and again. Like you I would have expected the raw value for all parameters except intensity. I’ll have a dig through the ZerOS release notes. 

[kgallen]

Well, wadaya know…

’percentages’

https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/desktops-windows/output-window
 

[kgallen]

Looks like we were talking about it here:

So the numbers on the encoder wheel are the raw value but the output window and any syntax uses percentage. Ok, that’s me all confused now!

[Davidmk]

I think the issue is that DMX values can run to a lot more digits than percentages. Allowing for all those digits in the screen layout would require less information visible and/or smaller fonts. Also if it was displaying 128 (for example) how would you know if that was 128 (50%) out of 255 or out of 65536 (20%). There is method in this particular bit of madness.

The wheels show the DMX value by default. I have a feeling you can change that to % but I suspect most people change it back pretty quickly.

[Charlie Newman]

20 hours ago, kgallen said:

Well, wadaya know…

’percentages’

Ah yeah interesting.... personally I would prefer /256, maybe it could be in the custom fixture file or just a desk setting to change...