jamesafarmer

thanks for the reply, i do not believe that it solves my problem though. If i program in partial mode i will not be able to save the fixtures (ispots and iwashes from coemar) in the memories. From page 6-9 it states "Partial Mode - Only fixtures which have been specifically 'tagged' are programmed into pallettes, memories and submaster channel data." It would work but on most shows I have various postions, beam shapes, and colors for the fixtures. As for the duplicating of HTP channel data from page 6-8, i saw no way to do what i was wanting, perhaps i missed something. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or if i am misunderstanding the way that it works. Thanks again for the response.

I am wanting to assign conventional lights to two different channels on the bullfrog. Here is my question with some explination... First, lets say i have lights 1 - 5 controlled by dimmers 1 - 5. I set the generic patches to channels 1 - 5. Then on channel 6 i want to be able to control lights/dimmers 1 - 5 as a whole but still have the option to control them individually. Second, before you think submasters, the problem that i run into with the submasters is that when i save the conventionals it also saves the fixture status and as a result i get the moving fixtures to go to whatever they were saved as, or the return to home, or once i even had them atomatical go through the shut down protocal. I am happy with an answer to have a solution either way...submaster or channel. Thanks for the help.