hallelujah - that worked - many thanks. Now I'm stuck on inserting a couple of states (scenes) into the running order: have followed the instruction titled "Inserting memories" but when I p[ress ""insert" sweet nothing happens. No options are offered. I've tried dummy runs in run mode , programme mode, no difference . I can see a workaround by putting the adjusted states on submasters but it's not exactly elegant and I'd prefer to have a running order in order. I'm probably doing something very stoopid but on the grounds that the manual may not be correct it's worth asking how to do the thing, Cheers.