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Note: fade times are all defined in the incoming cue. For example, say you are fading from cue 23 to cue 24; some channels will be fading up, some fading down and some staying at the same value. If you want the channels that are fading down (out) to do so in say 3 seconds - set the Fade Down time in Cue 24 to 3 seconds If you want the channels that are fading up (in) to do so in say 5 seconds - set the Fade Up time in Cue 24 to 5 seconds. Also, check the fade times for colour, beamshape and position. If their defaults are 3 seconds that may be the reason. Try setting them to zero and see if it helps.

The SX buttons on the mambo Frog desk provide another method of outputting data. They could be regarded as a single page of 48 faderless submasters. Each SX button can be loaded with channel data or a transferred memory. The action of each SX button can be set individually to Flash, Solo or GO.

Funny you should ask, but the exact same topic came up on The Blue Room a while back. CLICK HERE. You might be interested to read what some non-Zero88 folk thought before our sales folk dive in with the hard sell! Bear in mind that some of the posters in the topic on The Blue Room hadn't actually used the desk at the time, and that the Frog2 software has been moving very quickly in the last couple of months, so alot of the gripes from back then have gone away. Cue Graham, Bryan, Grant, Franck for the long list of reasons why a Frog2 is better than a Pearl...

Nice set of pictures there ... Not sure why this post is under the Manuals forum though ... I will move it when I figure out which forum it should be under Moderation: Moved to Hints and Tips

There is not a NEXT button at the moment. This function is something we have planned for a later version of software. However, if you give all your fixtures individual fixture numbers then you can quickly select them by number without having to select the Master Group first The LEDs in the UDF Flash buttons are lit when the outputs resulting from moving the fader are fading. For the UDK's - when the action is set to latch - the LED is on when the outputs are on. You can always display the UDF/UDK window on the monitor to show you what is programmed into each of the UDF/UDKs Er .... the LED does stay on the most recently selected playback and that determines which cue stack is displayed in the Cue Stack Window.

When programming in Partial mode - remember all generic channels and fixture brightness channels are ALWAYS recorded into the memory or submaster. For colour, beamshape and position parameters of fixtures, they will only be recorded if the fixture is tagged (yellow LED in fixture selection button is FLASHING).

Release Notes are normally provided with official software updates. They will document the new or modified desk functionality, bug fixes etc.

You need to assign a scroller fixture type to one or more of the fixtures on the desk. For this you will need a copy of the Zero 88 fixture library on floppy disk. Assign a fixture from floppy disk (Frog Manual Page 6-5) Select the manufacturer called <SCROLLERS> and then the type of scroller you require, eg 1 Channel, 2 Channel etc.

If you are running scanners or moving heads in your shows and you want to have various colour, beamshape or positional effects for the fixtures run off submasters without affecting the overall look from memories in the memory stack, then you definitely need to put the desk into Partial Mode before programming your memories and submasters.

If you wanted a quick way of removing the fixture outputs from your show, assuming you didn't want to use the scanners at all, you could always simply unpatch them from the DMX. Do NOT unassign them, just unpatch them. If you may want to actually use the scanners in your show then you will have to go through each memory and edit out the unwanted scanner outputs as follows: Select the programmed memory - press the EDIT button - Modify the fixture parameters in the same way as you would when programming the memory initially, ie select the fixture(s), select the attribute and adjust the parameter level with the control wheels. Press EDIT to exit edit mode and confirm changes (Frog Manual - Page 4-9) If you have programmed the desk in full mode and you then change to partial mode all thefixtures will still be programmed in all of the memories and submasters. If you don't want them to be you will need to edit each memory and untag the fixtures you don't want outputting. Remember that the tagging only applies to the LTP parameters (colour, beamshape and position). Fixture Brightness parameters are always recorded as they are processed HTP.

At present we have only used MIDI timecode signals to trigger cues with MIDI timecode triggers. In future releases of software we will be looking at MIDI Show control and MIDI notes response.

Hi Jon, I have edited your post to remove the large photos, taken copies, reduced them and posted them here (hopefully) ...

The Desk Setup Data contains the following information ... Desk Defaults (memory and submaster fade times, actions, triggers etc.) Fixture assignments, pan/tilt options, and DMX patch Program Mode Remote Switch Setup Frog Screen Setup Timecode Setup A Clear All will NOT affect any of this desk setup data A Clear to Default will clear all the desk setup data and return all values to desk defaults. Hope that makes things clearer.

Clear to Default will clear all the memories, submasters, SX buttons, palettes and groups on the desk. It will also reset all the Desk Setup parameters to their default values. If you want to clear all the memories, submasters, SX buttons, palettes and groups but retain the desk setup data, which includes the default fade times then use Clear All.

Moderation: The pictures are fine Jon, but could you please reduce the size of your first and last images in the above post so that they are similar in size to the others. The first image is 1156 x 852. Ideally images should be no larger than 640 x 480 pixels.

That is usually one of the main criteria when adding or modifying functions on the frog desks. Many ideas and suggestions are theoretically possible from an implementation point of view but not necessarily from a user interface or operator's point of view There are many ways to skin a cat ... er .. frog

I have to agree with sp above on this one and I think Graham would too However, in general discussions on possible features etc we have mentioned the possibility of being able to copy a submaster onto the same fader on all pages in a single operation rather than copying 1-1 to 2-1, 1-1 to 3-1, 1-1 to 4-1 ..... etc up to page 20.

Please can you give further information as to exactly which Griven Colorway fixture you assigned and patched as there are four different fixture types defined in the Zero 88 fixture library, with similar but slightly different profiles. Two of these fixture types are composite fixtures in which the shutter channel is in a separate subfixture and therefore has to be patched to a separate DMX address from the rest of the channels on the fixture. Is it possible you assigned different fixture types on the two desks ?

At the moment you cannot name fixtures that are assigned on the desk. With the original Fat Frog this was not a major problem as you only had a maximum of 12 fixtures, but with addition of the Leap Frog (24) and Bull Frog (24) and especially the mambo frog (96) I can see how trying to remember what each fixture was can become tricky :? Frog Reference No 5527 - Ability to name fixtures on the desk - to be reviewed.

I have added you to the usergroup ... see PM for details

Taken from the release notes ... Any live adjustments that are made to chases are temporary changes and will not change the programmed values of the modifiers in the memories themselves. If you wish to permanently change the programmed modifiers of a chase you have to edit the chase and save the changes.

When chases are run they will run according to the modifiers that were programmed into them. Adjusting chase modifiers live can be done for all chases running or individually selected chases. See Release notes for version 9 software or latest manual for details. Live modification of chases was one of the functions that several people had asked for and so we added it into version 9.

Yes, I was referring to the frog series of desks (frog, fat frog, leap frog, mambo frog, bull frog, frog box) .... The Frog 2 already has USB ports fitted as standard

Practically, it is not possible to easily move the physical position of the floppy disk drive, but we are trying to gauge demand for swapping the floppy disk drive for a USB port for show storage etc.

First of all we recommend that you use the latest software on both the desk itself and phantom frog. Both are currently at version 9.8. If you are having specific problems with either the desk software or phantom frog can you please send us the details and we will investigate them.