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Hi Erics
Thank you for your reply.
What I do know is that, when working with linear movement it’s easy to do the calculation with 16bit, like this: coarse value = 65.536 / 256 and fine value = 65.536 % 256 and that is working fine, using 16 bit combining two channels. It also works well because when the movement is linear there will also be one full fine movement (0-255) before coarse increments with 1.
For doing movement its better (one reason is the weight of the lamp) to use a sine-wave to generate the movement values, instead of linear-movement (sawtooth) so I use sine and cosine to calculate values from -1 to 1 (using degree 0-360) and calculate the DMX by this: dmxvalue = (sine * 127) + 127 and that is giving me a fine sine-curve, expressed in DMX -values ranging from 0-255.
So, I can do the movement (using sine and cosine) for the coarse channel, but I would like to use the fine channel also, so I can get smooth movements even at low speeds. My problem is that sometimes the coarse DMX -values are like this: 128, 128, 129, 129, 130 with the same DMX -value in a row and the means no fine-movements between those values. Not sure if I’m on the right approach here?
I'm still in the early days here, but when thinking about it, I don't think the "fine" should have the form as a sine-wave, I mean, the "fine" will (if using sine) go very, very, fast, both up and down, and that will mess things up if the "coarse" is still going "up". I guess the correct is that the "fine" will always have the sawtooth-shape -> sawtooth from zero to max when coarse is going up, and sawtooth from max to zero when coarse is going down. Does that makes sense?
How will you do the math/programming when calculating coarse and fine DMX-values for at sine/cosine movement?
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Hi 😊
I know this may be (a lot) off-topic, not related to Zero 88, but I guess the coolest lightning-guys visits this forum so I give it a try, I hope it is ok with Zero 88.
I’m a hobby programmer and at the moment I’m working on a small Java DMX-controller, a lot of fun in that. At the moment I’m working on the movement-generator but I could need some advice on how to do the 16bit movement. I think I know how to do it with 8bit but it gets a little bit more complicated when using 16bit (two channels) and doing non-linear movement (like using sine/cosine).
So: Any programmers out there, maybe with some DMX-programming experience that would like to get in contact with me? I imagine some kind of mail-contact. I would love to a have an expert to ask a few questions, not related to Java, but how to approach (maybe specifically the math-part) the general concepts. I will show my ideas and progress so far and tell where I’m stuck.
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droiddk
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Hurraaaa.
Down for...1 month...?
Glad it is back!
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33 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:
Hi @droiddk
Would you be able to take a screenshot of your ZerOS Monitor window, and email this to support@zero88.com? We’ll then take a look.
Edward
Hi @Edward Z88
Done
I really like the new improved graphics in Phantom ZerOS.
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Not directly related to ZerOs but any chance you could improve the image quality in ZerOS Monitor (Windows)? Its pixelated 😕
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Looks palettes (on separate slide/fane) would be great!!
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1 hour ago, martin-144 said:
To finally give some feedback, I ended up programming the effects from scratch because there was no remove option in the record menu.
Remove option is in the update window.
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12 minutes ago, Sam M said:
Hey there,
Every time I try and connect the latest phantom version to ZerOS Monitor, it just crashes. Any ideas on how to fix?
I've just tested and also crash here.
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On 6/7/2022 at 10:35 PM, terryb said:
Hi,
I have a Jester ML and a Jester TLXtra to dispose of. I have not been fortunate enough to find a buyer even at near give away prices. Is there a way of recycling old desks?
I tried to sell them on just before the pandemic but of course nobody was buying. Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks,
Terry
Hi
Sent you a PM.
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12 minutes ago, Connor said:
Thank you Edward
I am using showtec phantom 250 spots.
Hi
DMX-chart confirms what Edward said, DMX value 255 = "close" (from manual)/ dimmer at zero so desk is working as it should.
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7 hours ago, Edward Z88 said:
We would like to add separate Effect Rate playbacks, to control just the speed or just the size of a recorded effect. This would mean you had a playback for the effect's intensity as you do now, and then another playback for speed or size. This would behave very similar to how the Speed Override control does now for adjusting effect speed, but could be assigned to a specific effect.
Hi @Edward Z88
Wow, I would LOVE that! Fantastic!
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On 2/1/2022 at 9:12 PM, droiddk said:
+1 for separate speed and size master. I would love to have that so I can simply raise the fader and change the effect speed without affecting effect size.
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I now have the FLX S in daily use and I have to say that this is something that is very important to me. Speed and size on the same fader simply wont work for me. Please remove size
I also work as sound-guy and when doing both it would be so nice to control the speed with the fader. Please.
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Hi @Edward Z88
Thank you.
Now I know that I am not doing anything wrong, its working as intended
Have a nice weekend.
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Hi all
Still playing with Phantom Jester before putting the console in use at a small job. I have the Jester 24/48, Jester ML24 & Jester TL. I will be using a few movers so the job will be done using ML24 or TL. Both consoles are great. I will probably use the TL since it is the smallest, but I have a question:
Programming a simple chase, let’s say 4 steps with 1 dimmer channel going from 25%->50%->75%->100%. Works fine. Now I want to use that chase as a kind of cue-stack so back to program, press edit and sets the Chase Speed to manual, pressing edit to save. Back to run, on the ML I raise the Submaster (first step is outputting) and when button option is set to “Step/Go” I can press the button and the next step is outputting. Now exactly the same thing on the TL: There is no fader so I just try hitting the MFK but nothing happens.
Overall, I guess my findings makes sense: That Go/Step (with manual chase) is only working on submasters with faders (the chase will start first step when fader is raised above 5%?) I am a little bit confused since this is in the manual (P28):
“To advance a manual chase on a submaster, set the Flash Mode to Go/Step (using the Multi-Function-Keys when SPECIAL is active), select SUBMASTERS and use the Multi-Function-Keys (or use the submaster flash button on the JesterTLXtra)”
Maybe I am just reading the manual wrong?
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By what way: Jester TL, what does TL stands for? In ML it stands for “Moving Lights”, yes?
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Ahhhh ooops, I just found out that I forgot to un-press "Shift" when doing stuff in Setup 🙂
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Some of the good old stuff has to be put into use so I used Phantom Jester to catch up before actually sitting in front of the console.
As I found out with Phantom Zeros, Phantom Jester is also very handy learning the basic but I have a simple question:
Are some of the functions locked? (cant be changed). For example, in Setup->Record Options I cant change "Brightness" to "Channel". I can change it to "Channel" from "All" but it wont save it. If I go into setup again then Brightness is back on "All". I also had some problems loading new fixture files (including updating to the latest fixture library ver. 41, "default" ver. is 26, Phantom can see the file but wont update)
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8 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:
This will mean your console is not directly connected to the router. From your description, the router itself seems to be causing the console to freeze, and so it would be helpful to check whether going via an Ethernet switch has an affect.
I agree. This must be the first step. Or even remove the router completely (and use static ip on all devices), something strange is going on on that network - massive multicast forcing console to stress up? 😕
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Used Google translate for this so maybe my answer is way off.
Regarding 1: Do you have the version with 1024 channels? If yes then remember that the first 512 channels are patched to Output 1 (5-pin) and the next 512 channels are patched to output 2 (3-pin) as default. You can change this layout in "Universes" in Setup. If you don't have 1024 channels the first 512 channels should be patched to both outputs, I guess.
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I don't think my reply can qualify as a full answer but what is happening when using shift+record is that the recording is done using Snapshot so everything gets recorded and that means a blocking cue.
I think your existing practise is fine for some situations and sometime a blocking cue can be useful. Just be aware that a blocking cue can mess things up if using tracking.
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On 2/12/2022 at 2:39 PM, Techie_v2 said:
...would the effect carry on for the lights current position or would they all reset then start the circle effect again when running the show form cue 4 to cue 5.
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Good question 🙂
Not tried with real fixtures. But using Phantom ZerOs I tried recording cue 1 with a simple circle-effect and after that I copied cue 1 to cue 2. Looking at the DMX-output it looks like the effect just continues running when going to cue 2 from cue 1. I guess that makes sense since what is recorded is a reference to the circle-effect and ZerOs wont start the effect if it's already running.
I also tried deleting cue 1 and running cue 2 and the effects starts so the reference is in cue 2.
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12 minutes ago, Zulu said:
but can’t see where to specify 44.5 during the record action.
You simply just type it (right after pressing "Record") using a USB-connected keyboard, or by pressing "Z/Shift" right after pressing "Record" (then you can use the Syntax on the touch-screen to type 44.5).
Hope it helps.
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22 minutes ago, Zulu said:
I am looking to save a cue to a particular, as yet empty, cue, eg cue 45.
Is this possible?
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If the cue exists (and maybe is empty) I would simply playback the cue and update it with the look I want, using "Update". If the cue don't exists, and I want it between for example cue 44 and 45 I would simply record a new cue 44.5: Type record and use a keyboard to type in 44.5 and click the cue-stack. If you don't have a keyboard connected you can press "Z/shift" and type 44.5 using the Syntax. If you don't like having a cue 44.5 you can go into advanced playback settings and renumber your cue-stack. Please note that you have to take into consideration tracking-options when you update or insert at new cue into a existing cue-stack. Also, if the look you want exist in a existing cue and you want to record it into a cue in another cue-stack, I think you need to record the cue using Smart Tag or else nothing will be recorded.
Maybe this can be useful when using tracking:
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On 2/7/2022 at 10:18 AM, Edward Z88 said:
That is correct - when you record cues, the cues will be recorded using the tracking options at the point of recording. It therefore doesn't matter how you start recording a cue stack, as you could go and make changes with different tracking options later.
We find that most people program with Cue Only, but then enable Tracking for those situations where you need to edit a value for a light, or add a new value for a light, and want that change to take affect in multiple subsequent cues.
Thanks Edward. That is also how I think I will use it.
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On 2/1/2022 at 9:55 PM, Edward Z88 said:
In case it is useful, you can use the Speed Override control, to control just the speed of active effects. See the link below for more information…
Hi @Edward Z88
I already use that but I think it would be nice to have the fader only controlling the speed and not the size. I think speed control only for the fader would be great when busking
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Any software DMX-progammers out there?
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@Erics & @Davidmk
Thank you for your input. I think I got it, roughly
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