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I have been trying this out on Phantom in advance of going to the venue. It seems to work fine and I get the expected results on Capture. However, I was surprised to see that all fixtures now show as orange on my latest showfile which had been saved at software level 7.10, previously I had a mixture of white ones for known lights and red ones for ones created from the .ift editor. Most of the ones that were white offer up the library one to update to (with the usual nuisance resetting of the description field) but the red ones don’t offer up anything, or even show the channel attributes. Will importing the fixture .ift file help at all at showing the attributes?

I recently obtained a wing which works fine as access to the other page of faders, however on turn-on it always starts up in channel mode even though the main desk comes up in the state last used, mostly playback mode in our case. (I haven’t entirely worked out the detail although it is presumably showfile related as a desk reset puts it back to starting in channel mode). The wing sensibly always starts on page 2 presumably because the desk always starts on page 1. Can I request that consideration be given to making it match the mode of the main desk on power up initialisation? We frequently have non-technical people bringing up a static lighting state (as well as PA & video) for our routine performances and the less key presses the better. Being able to page the display in fader display mode would be useful, someone else already raised this in the product improvement thread. Looking forward to trying out the new release. Ian

Interestingly, I upgraded the Leapfrog to 7.10 as well as the S24 and when I loaded up the current file from the S24 into the Leapfrog all fixtures 1-48 retained their fixture numbers rather than renumbering the non-dimmers from 101 onwards. This saves twenty minutes of fixture renumbering when keeping the backup up to date. So the original grumble seems to be resolved, much appreciated!

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Ah, that makes it clear, thanks!

Thanks John, that sort-of works in that the direction is respected although the finess is a bit lacking on hitting a particular level. (Although that could be me being heavy handed). It looks like the acceleration settings make it fiddly.

I’m loving the improved graphics on the Phantom and have installed 7.10 on our backup desk, hoping to move into live next week after testing. I don’t have any cell based fixtures to try out the new software with but I like the idea of what is possible. My trivial question is this- I was hoping that the improved desktop encoder wheels might have been easier to tweak now they are much larger but not using a mouse. Is there a reliable way to tease the wheels up and down when doing offline editing? Thanks guys.

Something our team would like is a simplistic ipad app like an architectural panel that gracefully transitioned to a number of set scenes or effects in an easy to use manner for when the skilled techs are doing other stuff. We have two venue uses a week that require lighting but from states already defined. Failing that, if the FLX-S booted up reflecting the faders and page/mode used on shutdown rather than defaulting to all faders off regardless of position, that would be useful. We have occasionally reverted to the Solution as we know it will immediately output the last state on bootup.

“TP-Link TL-WR841N 300 Mbps Wireless N Cable Router, Easy Setup, WPS Button” £15 from Amazon. Whilst I had a handful of old devices knocking around, I bought that one as it had several modes and I’ve found before that routers that are expecting to be able to get to the Internet via a WAN port can get sulky. It was on out of the box settings other than security settings.

Just to provide an update, I tried connecting the apps from my phone and windows tablet right next to the wifi router, the phone still wouldn’t connect to the desk with connection error message but the Windows app would. I than examined the config in the router, the only thing that I didn’t expect was the DHCP lease set to one minute. I then did a factory reset on the router and locked down the SSID, password and admin access. (DHCP had returned to the default figure of 120 minutes). Access was subsequently fine from the apps. So, either a router gremlin, or some of the devices don’t handle DHCP re-leaseing properly. Thanks for your help, it looks like no further action needed. Ian

I’ll do more testing next week. Just the router cabled to the desk, nothing else on that network.

I have had infrequent issues with “Desk connection failed” on both my Apple tablet and Android phone recently, both running latest software. Inevitably, on final tech focus, I couldn’t connect at all unless I renewed DHCP on the desk which would allow me in once for a short while. The desk IP always appeared in the app startup screen. Curiously, the Windows Zeros Monitor worked flawlessly on my tablet but it wasn’t practical to use that at the top of the access equipment! I suspect my wireless router settings as connectivity worked fine via my home hub but it is out of the box other than SSID and password. Before I dive into all the settings there, does anyone perhaps know why the apps might work on Windows but not Android or iPadOS?

Ok, but please put this behaviour in the documentation somewhere so that it isn’t entirely unexpected for others who encounter it.

I’m disappointed with your explanation, it sounds like it is excusing overly simplistic coding. Leapfrogs can’t have fixtures 49-100 so therefore the software will renumber all fixtures to 101 onwards in an order that bears no relationship to the original numbering unless it is a dimmer, even though the desk can support fixtures on 1-48 and they can be manually renumbered to that afterwards? I don’t think you are seeing this through the eyes of the customer. OK the Solution series is now legacy (but only just) and therefore low priority but this is a gotcha I wasn’t expecting. Ian

Hi guys, I’ve been merrily rationalising our leaprog config build to fit within the constraints of 48 fixtures 48 subs. The S24 is now our main desk and working OK. Our Leapfrog 48 is now demoted to backup desk. Both are running 7.9.9/2.0.1. However, despite having fixtures 1 -48 working previously on the preset faders, when I cleared the memory and loaded up the S24 save file, most of the fixtures were re-allocated onto MFFs 101 upwards, only three single channel fixtures survived on the preset faders. The three retained their fixture channel number but the reallocated fixtures had lost their channel number relationship (possibly reallocated by fixture type). The playbacks seem to be fine. Of course, if I save the Leapfrog file and load it into the S24, all of the fixtures 101 upwards are discarded. I can reassign the misnumbered fixtures back to their desired fixture numbers but it is time consuming and not desirable in a scenario where we need to use the backup desk! I can duplicate it on Phantom. Showfile on requist. Ian

I’ve worked out where the missing settings went, I had changed the tracking options from enabled to cue only in record and update settings. I had mixed it up with cue only tracking in record options. All fine now, thanks for the nudges in the right direction.

Ah, that old chestnut… It was indeed on smartTag for the default testing. For my actual showfile, I’m not seeing SmartTag in the record option page, nor tracking. Here is a quick screen grab to show. I’m not quite certain why it is doing this. This show file has been edited and moved between Leapfrog 48, phantom Solution, Phantom S24 and S24 numerous times so maybe it is time to recreate the show from a clean install…

Hi guys, I’m merrily migrating our rig from the Leapfrog to the S24, tidying up and consolidating where necessary. Wanting to minimise red entries in the fixture list, I have been matching up fixtures in the database. The issue is in relation to 4 channel RGBW tape which was fine with the original profile. I converted the fixtures to “Generic/ LED-RGBW/4 channel 8 bit” and it seemed to work fine but I noticed when I updated the default I0/R255/G255/B255/W0 to 0/255/255/255/255 with “record/home/default” the fixture went back to 0/255/255/255/0 when released, the white level was not saved, it is only recording four parameters. Led tape being what it is, we have default levels with a mix of the four colours as a starting point. Pressing home brought up intensity as expected but if I dialled up the white then saved with “record/home/home” that worked fine in subsequent selections and home presses, saving all five parameters. I can provide a showfile on request although it should be possible to replicate this very quickly from an empty showfile. This is software 7.9.9 and library 2.01. Not urgent as I have reverted back to the home grown fixture file. Regards, Ian

Thanks Edward.

I recently obtained a 2nd user FLX-S 24 to use as an unskilled user alternative to our aging Leapfrog 48. I upgraded it to 7.9.9 ok but noticed a couple of oddities with a show file so checked it out in test mode and found three of the faders were non-linear (one of which doesn’t go all the way down to zero which is a real pain in channel mode). I’ve deployed the compressed air but the behaviour is the same so I’m in discussions with the vendor for spare parts. (I see 45mm pots are an orderable item on the spares tab). Anyway, on trying out the “Other Test” RDM loopback and NVR tests don’t appear to do anything (other than save your show warning on NVR). Is this normal behaviour on a FLX S? I know the tests work fine on the Leapfrog and assume it is generic across the range build as there are other tests there not supported. One more item to mention- the upgrade tool on the website is offline, I took a look to see how much it would be. I expect we will upgrade in due course but can cope with 512 channels over 2 universes for now…

Cheers. for further details for case ZOS-7827 I attach a (unfortunately too short) video of a development showfile triggering and then getting stuck on one of the first five playbacks. It doesn't take too long to make all 24 MFFs get stuck. I can't reliably reproduce it on Dockhouse or Chateau but it does misbehave. Once stuck at full the flash button will flash on the MFF and remain like that until level matched. I find that if I delete a playback and re-record the state it works better for a while but will start to stick in due course. It definitely seems to be tied in to the speed & flash to full side of things. I have had to really reduce the quality and duration to get into the file size limit but include the .zos which has 1-24 triggers et to playbacks 1-24. It always goes wrong for me! Solution 7.9.9 using DMX IN lockup Clip.mp4 DMX IN bug.zos

I get the flash emulation idea, strange that it doesn’t work the other way snapping the level down to zero moving the fader though… I still asert that the DMX IN is unusable on both Leapfrog 48 and Phantom in Solution mode due to playbacks getting stuck at 100% and refusing to fade down, I will put together a little screen grab video to demonstrate this.

I thought that might have been the case. Congratulations, by the way!

I haven’t received the desk yet so can’t prove it works, but I expect it will do. the other part of the manual is probably just asserting the default state. Thanks for that.