Davidmk
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4 hours ago, Edward Z88 said:
When you use groups to select fixtures and record cues, ZerOS does not remember which group was used to create the cue. Instead ZerOS stores the fixtures themselves.
A behaviour which seems at odds with the way pallettes work, especially when you consider that they are acting a bit like intensity pallettes. Buskers and tourers might be quite pleased if there was some sort of selection pallette referenced by cues. Just saying.
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3 hours ago, Finn Tegeler said:
I would prefer to run without a laptop as I typically do not carry one to most events.
For OSC, you wouldn't need a laptop on site. You would need a tablet/phone iOS or Android and some sort of wireless router which could just be a travel one as long as it has an ethernet connection and WiFi. When I last used OSC you couldn't actually run it on Windows.
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I'm pretty sure that this would not work as you envisage and that macros will not help. Group 2's fixture would need to be controlled by both sets of faders and would show whatever level of each colour was set last. Other than long and complex macros that add and remove group 2 in group 1's faders there seems to be no way out of this.
A far simpler solution might be to arrange your faders by colour rather than group...
Instead of G1-R, G1-G, G1-B, G2-R, G2-G, G2-B
Use G1-R, G2-R, G1-G, G2-G, G1-B, G2-B
That way, when you want 1 & 2 the same you use the pairs of colour faders together at the same level.
PS I have an FLX and use a midi keypad to set all LEDs to one of 13 colour pallettes but I can also set the even number fixtures to a different pallette. This is not possible without the midi inputs of course. It takes 28 buttons & 30 playbacks on pages that are not current to do it but it works pretty well.
If or when OSC becomes available on S24/S48 you could PM me and I'll explain it. Would take too long here.
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6 hours ago, kgallen said:
Minor heart attack when I misread the last line
Me too, then I read the rest of the line, twice, and my heart rate went back to something like normal.
Went back up again, but in a good way, when I read
13 hours ago, Jon Hole said:Expect to see OSC (Open Sound Control), DMX
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For the benefit of the community...
Edward has taken a look at this and it turns out it is confined to consoles (phantom ZerOS doesn't have the issue). It has been logged on the system to allow the software team to investigate. Initially, this is at a low priority which is fair enough as it doesn't cause any actual harm.
Whilst looking at old show files and collecting screen shots to help with this I discovered something else which is worth knowing.
I loaded an old file but forgot which so I went into save to check and found it had a different name. I asked Edward about this and it turns out show files contain their original names and these are used as the default when you save them.
This means that, if you change the file name (in Windows for example) then it will revert to the original name when loaded into the desk.
@Edward Z88 is truly the fount of all ZerOS knowledge. Just wish I could copy & paste from his brain to mine😀
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3 mails sent to support with attachments. Ignore the first one - sent in error with bits missing.
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Welcome back, hope you've had a good holiday.
I see them consistently although the actual characters vary. My showfile is a bit of a work in progress but based on one I've been using for a long time on this and my other desk and across more than one version of ZerOS. It has a lot (127) of cues triggering other cues or releasing playbacks. Not sure when it started or on which desk.
I'll try and send it tonight but before I do I'll do some checking on older versions, maybe even the other desk.
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Yep! 😞
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Glad to hear you are sorted.
If you apply a pallette to a fixture that wasn't included in the pallette (but the fixture type was) then it gets the values from the first fixture of that type. I'm not a big user of any pallettes except colour so the first thing I do after patching is create colour pallettes for all my LEDs in a range of colours adjusting each fixture type so that they look the same. That way I can be confident that selecting a colour will give me consistent results across a number of fixture types and in different cues. Also if I, or the director, decide the colour isn't quite right I can adjust it once for the whole show.
I do something similar with beam & shape but in a more limited way but, reading up on pallettes for this I am reminded that pallettes can contain attributes from other groups, handy for zoom & focus which change with position due to the different throw.
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I haven't, at least not on a regular basis (I'd put a one-off down to finger trouble I suppose). As it happens I'm doing some offline programming today, part of which is correcting a cue that should have some fixtures in it but has actually got all of them. I'll let you know how that goes.
If you could send me your show & capture files I could load them up and have a play. Got the desk & computer already set up.
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Itwould be good if you could report back to the community so we all know what it was.
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13 hours ago, Davidmk said:
Alternatively, select the fixtures you DON'T want in the pallette (and only those), press Update and select remove in the update options window before tapping the pallette.
Oops, missed an important bit, should read...
...select the fixtures you DON'T want in the pallette (and only those), press Home and then press Update...
Anyway, now you have Keith on the case you won't need me 😀
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Sounds like you have all the movers in both groups and probably in your pallettes as a result.
First, check on the groups screen whether you have "multiple select" or "single select" highlighted. For this you need single. Select one of your groups - if the other is highlighted then the group you have selected contains the fixtures in the other group. Delete both of your groups and recreate them. This will not affect your pallettes.
You could delete and recreate you pallettes making sure you deselect Snapshot and Smart tag in the record options window. Alternatively, select the fixtures you DON'T want in the pallette (and only those), press Update and select remove in the update options window before tapping the pallette.
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The fine channel may not display any recognisable pattern, it certainly wouldn't follow the sine wave.
Forget about DMX and binary for a moment and consider this...
Imagine a parameter, increasing linearly by 0.75 per step. It would go 0.75, 1.5, 2.25, 3.00, 3.75 and so on. The whole numbers are going up while the fractions are going down and yet it would still plot an ascending straight line on a graph. The whole numbers are analogous to the coarse byte, the fractions to the fine byte.
As @Erics says above, calculate a 16bit result then output the most significant byte as coarse, the least significant byte as fine.
Couple of other tips...
- I may be wrong about this but I think some (most? all?) fixtures ignore some of the least significant bits of the least significant (fine) channel so, even if the fine output value changes by a small amount the fixture will not move.
- Most programming languages use signed integers with negative numbers represented in "twos complement". You need unsigned integers so, unless your language has an unsigned integer data type you may have some work to do there. Maybe you should do your calculations in floating point and write functions to convert results to 8bit, 16bit MSB and 16bit LSB.
- This will be easier if you use the right language to start with. Some, at least, of a finished project will need to run in real time and it should be capable of multi threading and interrupt handling. Its a bit like a swan, serene and beautiful to look at but paddling like anything under the surface. 😀
Full disclosure... Before retiring I was an analyst programmer for 40 years or so and, while I never attempted the project I have spent time thinking about it. Feel free to DM me, maybe I can help here & there.
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Just finding out if I have issue. If I can post this then I'm not.
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From the release notes for 7.13...
"To update a console running ZerOS 7.8.2.39 or older, please visit zero88.com/manuals/zeros/software-updates/zeros-usb-creator for
instructions."There are two version numbers that are displayed by the desk - one of them is the underlying LINUX version number something like 7.8.1.2 - you are not interested in this. I think the ZerOS version is displayed somewhere in the startup text and probably elsewhere. If your showfiles have a .zos extension then they were saved with v7.9.8 or later.
If the version in your desk is actually newer than 7.8.2.39 then you start the desk in the usual way and use setup to initiate the software update.
Try reading the release notes again, in particular the instructions on the last page.
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1 hour ago, Techie_v2 said:
But if using a splitter, put one on the last fixture on each split correct?
Yes. (Nice short answer 😀)
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How good are you with spreadsheets? If you recorded one cue with everything in it on the master playback and output it as a CSV then, I think, the top row would give you all the used channels and what they are used for. Turning that into what you want would require good spreadsheet knowledge but it ought to be possible. Have a look at it and see what you think.
(I've used CSV output once, to get details of cues alongside the script for a play, took some doing but at least, once it was done, I could refresh it with a new CSV as the cue stack changed.
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3 hours ago, Edward Z88 said:
Currently, if you wish to record a "look" palette, you can hold SHIFT and tap RECORD, and then tap any empty palette in any attribute.
Why didn't I know that? Thanks!
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1 hour ago, Jon Hole said:
I've added "Global Palettes" to the voting list
Any chance of "everything" pallettes allowing a combination of colour, beam, shape and position?
Edit: Oops, just realised that this is already in the list a "looks" pallettes.
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6 hours ago, Jon Hole said:
This sounds like something that should go into the ZerOS request thread
Absolutely! Please.
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19 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:
force Capture to listen to a particular network interface
This could be what I want. I'm not consistent about which interface I use and the laptop is probably trying to use the same one as last time.
I'll give that a go first. Thanks.
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