Edward Z88
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22 minutes ago, frostyboy said:
I then read a post by Edward Z88 on triggering that playback stack from one master cue. I can't get that to trigger.
I create an empty master cue by having an empty output window and recording.
I select the master cue settings.
Add a macro trigger of cue stack 1 (my playback) and the recorded cue has no fade in or fade out, just the settings listed as Trigger.
When I hit the go button, nothing happens.
My guess is that you are triggering playback 1 when it is already active. In this situation, nothing will happen.
To confirm, press and hold CLEAR, and tap playback 1's button. This will manually release the playback. Then try triggering your cue in the Master Playback that triggers playback 1. Playback 1 should then get triggered.
Based on your description, it sounds like playback 1 contains multiple auto-follow cues, with the last cue in playback 1 being a blackout. In this situation, to avoid needing to manually release playback 1, you may find it is easiest to configure the last cue in playback 1, to release playback 1.
Then, your cue in the Master Playback will trigger playback 1, and the last cue in playback 1 will automatically release itself once complete. This means you can then retrigger your cue in the Master Playback, and Playback 1 will be activated again.
18 minutes ago, kgallen said:That all sounds in order. If your trigger cue only has the macro trigger and no other lights recorded then I’d expect fade times all to be blank.
As @kgallen mentions, if a cue includes no intensity information, no Up/Down times will be shown. In this situation, you may decide you do actually want to include some "dummy" intensity information. This will then provide Up/Down cue timings. The Up time can then be used to set the fade up time of the playback you are triggering from this cue.
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Hi @rickw
15 hours ago, rickw said:As it stands, if I save something as a submaster I need to build it on top of whatever scene I'm using it in. In the show we're doing we need some stuff to flash at different points. It would be great to have a single flash that I can keep using rather than one for each background scene I'm using it in.
As others have mentioned, this is how the console will work by default. It therefore sounds like the default behaviour of the console may have been changed.
Firstly, please go to Setup > Settings > Record & Update. Make sure that your "Tracking Options" are set to "Enabled". If the console is in "Cue Only" mode, this basically means the console is in beginner mode. This is ideal for simplistic cue stacks, but will cause problems if you want to do more controlled mixing between playbacks or more complex programming.
When the console has Tracking Options enabled, exit Setup, and then tap the RECORD key. This will open the Record Options on the external monitor. In here, by default the "SmartTag" and "Cue Only" buttons should have red stripes. If they're currently blue, tap them. You can then tap RECORD again to save and close.
You can now record your playbacks onto the submaster faders. The console will then only record the values that are required to achieve the lighting state that is currently outputting. No other information will be included, which should mean the playback on the submaster fader can be mixed with cues on the Master Playback.
I hope this helps. Please let us know if you have any questions.
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3 hours ago, frostyboy said:
I would have liked to record these to a single playback and then trigger that from a single cue in master playback to make it tidier, but for some reason when I try to record a number of cues to the same playback button they do not record. I've tried different ways to do this and still can't achieve it.
Sounds as though I'm a bit dim but I'm not. Just can't find out what the issue is.
I set (let's say) dimmers 25 & 26 to max. Press record. Press (let's say) playback 1 which is flashing.
I set a blackout, all dimmers and lights off. Press record. Press playback 1 which is not flashing. Click create cue2.
The do the same again with lights on. When I try to play back, each press of playback button1 advances the cues down the stack but there are no lights at all. Just blackouts.
The only step you have not mentioned here, is double tapping CLEAR prior to playing back the cues. You must double tap CLEAR, to clear your manual value adjustments, to allow your cues to play back as programmed.
If you press and hold VIEW, and tap playback 1's button, this will show you the cues on this playback. Up and Down timings should be displayed for each cue. If Up/Down times are not displayed, this indicates there is no intensity data stored in the cue.
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Hi @frostyboy
On 3/2/2024 at 8:25 AM, frostyboy said:I recorded the effect to playback 48 and it played ok. The problem is, it didn't/won't stop. Creating and starting the next cue, even a blackout cue didn't stop it and I couldn't find the settings I needed which would stop it.
I only need the lights to flash for 3 or four flashes.
Is playback 48 a cue stack, or does playback 48 simply contain a single cue containing your effect?
If playback 48 contains a single cue, and you trigger that playback, that playback will then be active with your effect running, until the playback is manually released.
You could record a second cue onto playback 48 to "turn off" the effect, which automatically follows the first cue after a certain amount of time. This would mean you could trigger the playback, the effect would run, and then automatically turn off again.
On 3/2/2024 at 8:25 AM, frostyboy said:I sometimes have a similar issue where a couple of lights on stage are lit without asking for them. I can raise and lower the relevant dimmers and they stop, but the clear light comes on and when I tap it the lights come back on again. I can't figure out how to prevent this.
Based on your description, there is a playback active on your console which is causing these fixtures to be on. If you view the Output window on your FLX, you will see a "Source" button at the top. Tap this, and it will tell you the playback/cue that is currently controlling the active fixtures.
On 3/2/2024 at 8:25 AM, frostyboy said:Whereas the lightning is lights off then flash on, this is the opposite with the lights on and a flicker to off then on again. I can't think how to achieve this now we don't have a flash button.
To do this, hold SETUP, and tap the button of the playback containing your flicker effect. In the playback's settings, change the "Intensity Mixing" to "Latest Takes Precedence", and click OK. Now upon holding the playback's flash button, the fixtures will go to their effect values, even if the lights are already on from another playback.
On 3/2/2024 at 11:20 PM, frostyboy said:I'm downloading Capture. Is Dockhouse a separate plugin or something? I've only seen it mentioned as Dockhouse Capture!
"Dockhouse" is the name of the Capture demonstration project that has been created. Please see this link for more information...
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/networking/connecting-to-capture
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Hi @DALX
On 3/2/2024 at 9:13 AM, DALX said:I have a FLXS48 with the second universe and want to run shows on PhantomZerOS, how do you configure it to have 1024 channels please ?
Phantom ZerOS will emulate the fully upgraded version of the desk type you have chosen.
Therefore if you have Phantom ZerOS with an unlock dongle, it will be able to output 1024 control channels when emulating a FLX S48.
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Hi @UMB
Welcome to the forum.
On 2/29/2024 at 9:17 PM, UMB said:One time for an individual green (green mixed with amber), one time for an individual red and one time for an individual blue.
Solution consoles are designed so that each individual channel fader controls separate individual fixtures.
If you wanted to access the individual DMX channels of a fixture on the Channel faders (Dimmer, Red, Green, Blue, Amber, etc), you could just patch dimmer channels onto the Channel faders, on the DMX addresses you need.
On 2/29/2024 at 9:17 PM, UMB said:But when I patch the fixture the second time, desk only gives the option to unpatch the first patching. Is there any solution?
You cannot have the same light patched onto multiple channel faders.
On 3/1/2024 at 9:16 AM, KWR88 said:The way you would achieve what you are looking for is to patch as normal, then program individual RGBA values to different playbacks and change the playback control option to allow colour mixing of the faders.
As Keith mentions, rather than having individual channel faders to control RGBA, you could instead program individual playback faders to control RGBA. Please watch this video for more information...
On 2/29/2024 at 9:17 PM, UMB said:I'm using zerOS 7.9.2.
It is worth mentioning that currently the latest software for Solution consoles is ZerOS 7.14.2. If you would like to update the console's software, you can download the latest software from the link below...
https://www.vari-lite.com/global/products/zeros-software
Please let us know if you have any questions.
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8 minutes ago, SKLSKL said:
Thanks Edward. If I do that it only changes a single fixture in the chase......
The one that it happens to be on in the sequence.
To update the data recorded in each cue of the chase, you will need to update each cue individually.
If when you recorded the cues, you set the colour in the first cue and this then tracks through the following cues, you could update the colour in the first cue as a track forwards update, and the colour of the subsequent cues will also update. However, this will only work if the subsequent cues do not include their own colour data. If each cue does have its own colour information recorded, each cue will need to be updated separately, as data will never track into a cue that has its own recorded data.
If you would like to discuss this further, it may be easiest to arrange an MS Teams call. Please email support@zero88.com, and we can arrange this.
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3 hours ago, SKLSKL said:
When I change the colour of the fixtures in the chase, then go to record the update, what options should I be selecting in the update box?
You should not need to touch any of the options in the Update Options window, other than if you wish to change the Tracking Behaviour.
You should just be able to tap UPDATE, and then immediately tap the playback’s button. The changes you have made will then be added to the cue you are currently in.
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Bonjour,
Il semble que les premiers firmwares du Cameo F2 FC ne proposaient pas de mode 2 canaux. Le mode 2 canaux n'est donc pas dans la bibliothèque ZerOS.
Cependant, le mode 2 canaux est disponible dans la bibliothèque ZerOS pour le Cameo F1 FC. Je recommanderais donc de patcher ce luminaire, car ce luminaire partage la même carte DMX que le nouveau mode 2 canaux du F2 FC.
J'espère que ça aide.
Hello,
It seems that early firmware for the Cameo F2 FC did not feature a 2-channel mode. The 2-channel mode is therefore not in the ZerOS Library.
However, the 2-channel mode is available in the ZerOS Library for the Cameo F1 FC. I would therefore recommend patching this fixture, as this fixture shares the same DMX map as the new 2-channel mode for the F2 FC.
I hope this helps.
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2 hours ago, SKLSKL said:
If I record a basic chase onto a cue stack using Smart Tag and Track forwards, If I then want to update that cue stack to a different colour, its not letting me. I'm not sure whether I select Cue 1/3, All sources or Selected Stack? I have tired all the combinations and it only seems to update the fixture in the chase that happens to be on at the moment I press update.
To update the cue of a chase, you will first need to “snap” into that cue. To do this, hold SHIFT and press the playback’s button, until you snap to the cue you need. You can then make your changes and tap UPDATE. You can then use the Tracking Options to decide whether your changes are sent to other cues in the playback. You can then simply press the playback’s button to confirm the update. You shouldn’t need to adjust the available “sources”.
Hope this helps.
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Hi @delicolor
43 minutes ago, delicolor said:Pressing go whilst the first cue is running does cause the colour change, but the beams scurry to a different position before resuming the same movement. Is there a way for the chases to be in synchronisation so that the beams continue their sweeps and just change colour?
When you say "chase", I am going to assume you mean movement effect.
It sounds like you may have effect information in cue 2, when you actually just want colour information. From your description, it sounds like you just want the effect information to "track" from cue 1, so that you just see a colour change in cue 2.
If you had SmartTag enabled when you recorded cue 2, it should have taken care of this for you, and ensured that the only data in cue 2 is the colour data.
If you press and hold VIEW, and tap your playback's button, you should see that only "Colour" has a fade time value displayed for cue 2. If a fade time value is displayed for "Position", this indicates that cue 2 includes position/position effect data.
To program this, I would create my first look, and program this to a playback. Then double tap CLEAR, and raise the playback's fader. Then ENTER ENTER, and choose my new colour. Then tap RECORD, and tap the playback's button again > create cue 2. You should find the second cue just includes a change of colour, meaning you won't see any change in movement effect when transitioning from cue 1 to 2.
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Hi @phosphene
If there are cues programmed onto the Master Playback, you will need to get rid of these first. If you don't need them, tap DELETE, and then tap the Master Playback's GO button to delete the whole playback.
With the Master Playback empty, hold SETUP and tap the Master Playback's GO button. You can then choose "Grand Master" from the options on the touchscreen.
Please see the link below for more information...
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/cues-playbacks/special-playback-functions
I hope this helps.
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Hi @Tassal
13 hours ago, Tassal said:My best guess would be that somehow even though the lanterns were not programmed into a cue an effect associated with those lanterns was. It would be nice to know if it was me, my desk or a software problem. I have sent the support team a copy of my modified showfile for comparison. Thank you.
Thanks very much for emailing your show file to us. I have replied to your email with an explanation.
As a brief summary for the forum, it looks like effect data had accidentally been recorded into cues whilst these fixtures were @ 0% intensity. This could have been due to the cues being copied, and then pasted with unnecessary data.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
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1 hour ago, delicolor said:
I've sent the file. I created a new file from factory reset Phantom 17.4.2 with one MP75, recording three cues on playbacks with primary colours & setting buttons to Go(fade). Frustratingly it is working perfectly normally!
There is presumably something a bit more obscure going on and hopefully you can get to the bottom of it. Having worked in software support a long time ago I remember that actually duplicating the issue is often half the battle...
Thanks very much for emailing your show file. For reference, this has been logged as ZOS-11991.
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Hi @Tassal
11 hours ago, Tassal said:Everything is fine with the houselights untill I run a cue on the master playback which has a number of led lanterns on the stage running a Kaleidoscope effect. After this cue has been run when I raise playback 31 the par 64's quickly cycle through colours building to the correct colour and level. This only happens after the cue is run. The houselights are not in any cue on the master playback.
It sounds like the house light LED PARs have been accidentally recorded into a cue in the Master Playback.
If you can email a copy of your show file to support@zero88.com, I can investigate further. If you email your show file, please include as much information as possible, such as the fixture/channel numbers of the LED PARs, and the number of the cue in the Master Playback that seems to be causing the issue.
Please let us know if you have any questions.
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Hi @delicolor
1 hour ago, delicolor said:We have a bank of ten playbacks that control four Elumen8 MP75 RGBW fresnels, used to light the console sides. Each fader has the four lanterns at 100% with various colour groupings. For historical reasons going back to Frog days the volunteers worked out that you only needed one fader up and pressing the button on any of the 9 other faders would give a smooth fade to the new colour state.
To achieve this behaviour, these playbacks would need their buttons configured to "Go (Fade)" behaviour, rather than the default flash behaviour.
1 hour ago, delicolor said:sometimes pressing a button resulted in a snap colour change and it was unpredictable (to him) whether it would snap or fade. Yesterday I quickly realised that if a playback had already been triggered previously, selecting it again whilst still highlighted caused the colour snap.
With the playback buttons configured as Go buttons, I am unable to replicate this behaviour. Even if a playback has already been triggered, the playback's GO button can still be used to go into the cue again, and therefore fade the fixtures to the recorded values.
Please ensure that Fader Controls Colour is not enabled on these playbacks. If it is, the cue colour fade times of these playbacks will be ignored upon pressing their GO buttons.
1 hour ago, delicolor said:Rolling back to 17.4 showed it was the software rather than the showfile.
This is very interesting to hear that you saw different behaviour in ZerOS 7.14. This behaviour should not have changed between ZerOS 7.14 and ZerOS 7.14.2. Please email a copy of the show file to support@zero88.com, to allow us to investigate further.
1 hour ago, delicolor said:The release notes for 17.4.1 mention ZOS-8696 which is related to playback trigger & release so that is the likely culprit. I don't know if it is a bug or an unintended consequence but would appreciate a workaround if possible. (I never worked out if the ZOS reference body text was accessible to users).
ZOS-8696 is specifically related to triggering/releasing playbacks from a cue macro. This is not related to triggering/releasing playbacks manually using playback buttons.
Our "ZOS" system is not public, but we do provide reference numbers for tracking purposes.
1 hour ago, delicolor said:I can provide a showfile on request but in the meantime I will create a simple show on Phantom to duplicate it at home.
That would be great if you could. Thanks very much.
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Hi @fischchen
Welcome to the forum.
1 hour ago, fischchen said:is it possible to patch a multi cell fixture like the EUROLITE LED TMH-H90 to different faders (one per cell) on the FLX s24?
You wouldn't be able to patch this fixture onto multiple channel faders. This is because the fixture contains "master" parameters, which affect/control both cells.
If the fixture did not have master parameters, and the parameters in the fixture belonged to one cell or the other, then you could patch the individual cells as separate fixtures.
You could however record the separate cells of the fixture into separate playbacks. You could therefore have a single playback that controls the intensity of the first cell, and a second playback that controls the intensity of the second cell for example.
Please let us know if you have any questions.
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12 hours ago, beyond the blue said:
Today I stumbled across a colour temperature screen when programming some Chauvet Ovation fixtures that did a great job, but I'm damned if I could find it again when programming some ADJ Cobbs, Is it only available when using certain fixtures and where will I find it again? Using FLX S48 board.
There's a colour temperature slider in the Colour Picker. Please see the link below for more information...
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/controlling-fixtures/colour/picker#temp
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Did you initially update the cue with “cue only”? If so you won’t be able to use track forwards to “repair” the cue, as the cue will now already include colour data you don’t want.
So one option is to remove colour data from the cue that is incorrectly changing the fixture colour. See the link below for more information…
https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/cues-playbacks/updating-cues/update-options#remove
The other option is to simply add a colour delay to the cue that fades out the fixtures. This means the fixture won’t start changing colour until after the delay time has completed.
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Hi @SKLSKL
Most common cause of this behaviour, is if you did a Cue Only update, when you should have done a Track Forwards update.
Let’s say you update cue 10 “cue only”, to add in some new lights in a colour. Press Go to go into cue 11, and the lights that you added into cue 10 now do a weird colour transition into cue 11. This is because when you updated cue 10 “cue only”, the console also had to update cue 11, to ensure cue 11 reverts the fixtures back to the exact same values they had when the cue was initially recorded. This means upon transiting to cue 11, you see the console “undo” the changes that were made in cue 10. Therefore in this instance, you should have updated cue 10 “track forwards”. This would allow the colour data you’ve added into cue 10, to track forwards into cue 11, meaning you won’t see values changing as you transition to the cue.
Hope this helps.
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13 minutes ago, Trapdoor said:
So I factory reset the desk and now it’s working as expected again.
Thanks very much for the update.
Please keep an eye on this. If the issue happens again, this could suggest the console's internal battery is going flat. In which case, we can provide instructions on how to replace the battery.
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Hi @Trapdoor
12 hours ago, Trapdoor said:Is there a way that window assignments to the various desktop tabs can be saved? Running 7.14.2
It’s a bit frustrating after setting up say Colour Pallets on Monitor 2 and Effects on 3 (as an example) that on desk reboot they’re all unassigned again.
When you switch on the console, the custom desktop layouts that were present when the console was last used should be recalled.
Please rearrange your desktop layouts how you'd like them. Then tap SETUP twice to enter and exit Setup, which will force the show file to be saved to the internal storage.
If you then switch the console off and on again, are the custom desktop layouts recalled?
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Pour abaisser le fader d'une lecture et revenir à l'état d'éclairage sous-jacent, vous pouvez activer les « Contrôles du fader » pour cette lecture. Pour ce faire, maintenez SETUP et appuyez sur le bouton de lecture. Cliquez ensuite sur les attributs sous « Contrôles du fader » pour lesquels vous souhaitez effectuer un fondu enchaîné avec le fader de lecture. Cliquez sur OK et vous devriez constater que vous pouvez désormais effectuer un fondu enchaîné de ces attributs avec le fader de lecture, plutôt que de les accrocher lorsque la lecture est relâchée.
J'espère que cela t'aides.
To lower a playback's fader, and transition back to the underlying lighting state, you could enable "Fader Controls" for this playback. To do this hold SETUP and tap the playback's button. Then click the attributes under "Fader Controls" that you would like to be crossfaded with the playback's fader. Click OK, and you should find you can now crossfade these attributes with the playback fader, rather than them snapping when the playback is released.
Hope this helps.
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Bonjour Jean-Stéphane,
Si vous souhaitez passer d'un état d'éclairage à un autre et vous assurer que l'état d'éclairage précédent est "désactivé", vous souhaiterez peut-être enregistrer deux cues sur une seule lecture, puis utiliser le bouton Go de la lecture pour basculer entre eux. Cela garantira que vous n’aurez jamais les deux états d’éclairage actifs en même temps.
Hi Jean-Stephane,
If you want to transition from one lighting state to another, and ensure that the previous lighting state is "deactivated", you may wish to record two cues onto a single playback, and then use the playback's go button to switch between them. This will ensure you never have both lighting states active at once.
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Submaster help
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When the console is in its normal mode (when Cue Only is NOT selected in Setup > Settings > Record & Update), it means you have control of our Tracking behaviour from the Record Options. The Record Options window should appear on the external monitor upon tapping RECORD. In the Record Options, make sure that "Cue Only" has a red stripe, meaning enabled. With Cue Only enabled, this will mean when you Record/Update cues, subsequent cues will still look exactly how you programmed them.
@kgallen shared this video, which explains this in detail...
Hope this helps.