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  1. Ok so having read the advice I finished the PULSE 8 channel by including the last two parameters under beam shape, setting default to 0 but not allocating to a wheel. On saving the file there was an alert to the fact that no wheels were allocated but saved it anyway and I've tried it on the desk - seems to work fine as does the Cameo fixture file. At least with the PULSE file I've managed creating that one from scratch in the editor with just a bit of help which was my goal. I think I mentioned the 'being bought before my time bit' - so lets not go there as there are twelve of them! To be fair they were bought to add some colour to the architectural lighting for certain events rather than stage lighting - the venue can be worked out I think from my user name and location and I recently volunteered to join the tech team there doing lighting for concerts so its a matter of working with what there is at present together with equipment that's mine. Thanks Kevin and Jon for getting me this far with the frog desk which will help me take what can be done there ever upwards I hope. Andy
  2. Thanks guys I did set the dmx channels to 8 when using the editor to avoid dmx overlap which at the moment displays 8(6) if I recall. I assumed this is because I have not set anything up for the last two channels and hence the question. Point taken re 3 channel + virtual brightness vs 4 channel with brightness so in essence best to include it for possible future use even though dmx addresses are not going to be at a premium at present. I've been trying to puzzle out how to include an attachment. I assume it goes to my media first but I don't seem to have the option to upload - is this because I haven't made enough posts yet (something I've come across on forums before). Instead here's a link to a download I found on the net http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1685456.pdf Andy
  3. Progress being made on the learning curve front. Removed the legacy fixtures that came with the desk and installed the relevant number of Cameo fixtures from your file. Used the fixture editor to analyse the file you produced vs the data in the Cameo fixture manual - now I understand! So used the editor to create a file for a PULSE flat PAR56 from scratch. (It's a basic cheap up lighter purchased before my time) A couple of questions come to mind.. Creating the file for the PULSE PAR 56 I skipped including mode 1 which is 3 channel RGB on the basis that adding a virtual brightness channel would simply replicate mode2 which is 4 channel brightness + RGB. There's only one other mode (8 channel) where Ch 8 introduces a delay in responding to the brightness channel if set at 251 - 255. I can't see I need this so set to zero is fine but do I need to include it as an attribute with default to 0 or can I ignore it? Ch 7 is used to set an ID address in the range 1 - 66 )This fixture is aimed at the DJ market so I guess it must be useful in that context but how best to handle it on the frog? Have just brought home some fixtures to try on the desk maybe tonight so fingers crossed. Andy
  4. Thanks Kevin - you are an excellent mentor ! BTW it always pays to assume the learner knows next to nothing! I'd kind of worked out how to include a fixture in a cue using a profile for a par can left on the desk by previous owner but had no way of testing it other than watching the dmx outputs on the screen - yes I have a VDU and keyboard attached. Re the file you attached - that's exactly the Cameo par can even down to the pic included in the fixture file - how neat is that! Looking at it in fixture editor on my PC also provides a useful template of what has to be produced / included in such a file which is really useful. I'll have to pick up a couple of different fixtures from the venue sometime this week to try it all out at home where the dining room table has been requisitioned for the desk and VDU at present. When I do I'll try and create a file for the flat pars in use but expect another cry for help if I can't manage it. Maybe there's one that I can download but I need to crack being able to produce one from scratch as a personal goal. Your patience and help is really appreciated. Andy
  5. Recently bought a Leap Frog desk and with a bit of help from the forum changed the battery and updated the software so its now good to go. I can use it to do all the basics that I could do years ago with a Sirius 24 (pre dmx) desk. In a way that's all I need for the moment as I only have LED par cans of two types and bog standard tungsten lights to control at present and can use generic channels for them all but would like to be able to get to grips with the fixtures control part of the desk. I suppose the first question would be - is there any point until I need to control moving head stuff? If there is then I could do with some help understanding the overall concept which would then make following the manual easier. I kind of get the bit about teaching the desk the profile of a fixture or getting it from a library but then what? How do you make use of this in a scene? (sorry for the dumb questions here) Taking a particular fixture type that I have - Cameo Studio PAR 64 Can (RGBW) its in the profile library I downloaded but reports the fixture as having 6 parameters needing 6 dmx addresses. The Cameo manual indicates the fixture can be used in 2,3,4 or 7 channel modes but not six so I'm getting a bit lost here. Andy
  6. USB floppy arrived today so put the update on disk and installed it successfully - thanks. I've reached the point where I can do all the things on the Leap Frog that I used to do years ago on a non-dmx Sirius 24 which is a start. I did have a read through the release notes but first I need to grasp the whole concept of fixtures controlled by the dedicated fixture control panel rather than using the generic channels. (At present only RGBW pars to control) I'll start a new thread. Andy
  7. New battery fitted and both show memory and clock working ok now. They had the 2032 bat at my local little DIY shop and following your instructions it took me (and a second pair of hands) about 10 mins start to finish. Was wondering what the life expectancy of the battery is likely to be, particularly as Super User - Desk Info was still reporting the old one as ok. Thinking it would perhaps be a good idea to put a label on the bottom panel with date battery changed for future reference. A cheap USB floppy drive is on its way to me ready to transfer 10.12 from PC to desk. If I have any probs I'll let you know and take up your offer, Thanks. Andy
  8. Thanks guys for all the really helpful comments. I guess the battery is hovering around the dead mark in that the next time I turned the desk on it had remembered the show but the clock had reset so I'll go shopping and replace it. Saving / loading to/from floppy disk works but the fact I need to update the software made me realize I'll need to add a USB external floppy drive to the shopping list as its been a fair few years since I had a PC with that feature. I'm assuming that the internal floppy drive emulators that physically replace an old school floppy drive and use a USB stick wouldn't work with the Leap Frog desk so I'm kind of stuck with disks? I was wondering about the code so I'll do that. Just spending an hour or so here and there checking out how to use the desk at the moment - bit of a learning curve from the Sirius and I do miss the LEDs that mimicked the outputs but having a monitor attached is great - not sure how anyone really managed using just the LCD display. Andy
  9. After a long period away from lighting (last desk was a Sirius 24!) I've just bought a Leap Frog 24/48 referred to as 'original type' I think. Outwardly it is in pretty much pristine condition so I don't think it has had a hard life and the fact it has a flight case must have helped. Serial is 0073801 02460013 All seems well with it except for the fact that it doesn't appear to hold a show in the internal memory when power is switched off. The internal clock time and date is also lost which makes me think the battery must need changing even though Super User- Desk Info reports the battery as being ok. Am I on the right track? (Slight puzzle is that fixtures programmed in by previous owner appear to be retained) Knowledge base seems to indicate that its a coin cell in this desk yes/no? Can approximate age of the desk be worked out from the serial? Thanks Andy C
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