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(On which note, Jon's graphic is not being displayed this morning - seemed to be showing ok last night...). Admittedly I'm on my work laptop this morning and last night on my home PC. But both Win10 and Chrome browser. ETA: Hmmm, rendering ok at home still...! Weird. Maybe a firewall at work...

Hi Pip, Just a thought to check: the new software will need to be in the root directory of the USB drive otherwise the desk won't see it. Can you check that's the case? Kevin

Nice one! Bet it took you longer to find that graphic than add the tab! Thanks Jon!

Poke - to ask if 7.9.3 as the "third" might have this in? Thanks.

Hi Eric, I'm not sure I fully follow your question, but I had a bit of a read of the manual around this. I will base my comments on you saying you have a Jester 24/48 which has two rows of 24 faders in a 2-preset organisation. If I understood the manual correctly... I didn't find it fully unambiguous myself... In Program Mode, you will be using the faders to set the lighting levels of 24 lighting channels (traditional 2-preset fader layout), or 48 channels if you're in Wide mode (2-preset emulation based on one set of 48 physical faders with software paging). In Program Mode, the channel flash buttons are used to program the submaster that will correspond to that same number once in Run mode. When in Program Mode you don't actually have any submaster faders i.e. you can't assemble a lighting look using submasters in order to program a memory. Once you're in Run mode then you have a fixed mix of fader usage. The top row of faders [Preset A] can be used as HTP overrides of the given channel. Those channels will be 1-24 and if you are set for Wide mode, then you'll have to use [Page A] button to get access to channels 25-48. Similarly, when in Run Mode, the bottom row of faders [Preset B] are devoted to submasters. Initially that is submasters 1-24 and you press [Page B] button to get to submasters 25-48. So in Run mode, you can't operate the faders as 2x24 or 1x48 (Wide). Nor can you operate them as 48 submasters. The mix of channel control and submaster is fixed. In fairness to Zero88 I think they packed a lot of functionality onto the faders in as simple method as they could. Giving other "mix" options would arguably be beyond the use model of customers adopting such a console. The predecessor of the Jester 24/48, the Alcora, which I have, does not have any submaster capability, and this looks to be a great addition on the Jester, even if it doesn't have the assignment flexibility maybe you seek. I'd get that FLX asap if I were you! Hope that was of some assistance. Of course, if that changed in later software versions to the manual, I'm ignorant to that! Kevin

I can't post in "News and Announcements" so have to start a topic here. We used to be able to get back to the main Zero88 site from the Forum. There doesn't seem to be a click zone to do that now. OK, so I just edit off the "/forum" bit in the URL but that is a bit of a drag because I have to wake my fingers up. When I'm helping other users on your behalf (*) it can be necessary to go back to the main site to provide a link for documentation/software/related products etc so making this easy helps us help you if you are able to add this. Thanks, Kevin * Yes I know the Forum is there for users to help users and is not there just for Zero88 to answer questions, but you get my drift . I'm a resource not on the payroll...!

Hi Eric, I suspect what you need are a complete set of Release Notes to bridge between the Software Version described in the manual and that on the desk. With the Fat Frog, the most recent, most powerful, most radical and sometimes most useful features were described (in some detail) in the release notes! I found this page for the Jester. There are release notes, but from a quick glance they only seem to cover the most recent changes. Maybe you can find some useful information here. After that maybe Jon or Ed (Zero88) can fill in the blanks for you. http://support.zero88.com/Legacy-products/Legacy-Consoles/Jester-12-24-24-48/975199541/Jester.htm Kevin Jon: The "Software Update" link for Jester is broken on the top Lighting Consoles page, This one: http://zero88.com/support/index.php?/Knowledgebase/List/Index/32/software

If I understood you correctly, just because the desk will allow 10 inserts (on other desks this is 10 "point" cues) on a cue numbered anything 1-999 it does not mean the desk has the internal memory to hold 10 inserts on every memory 1-999. I would understand it that the desk can hold 500 memories. You can number these 500 memories using a cue number of the format nnn.m. So for example you might have cues (viz "memories") 1,2,3,5,7,7.5,15,15.2,15.8,17,20 etc etc where there are no more than 500 of these. The point cues usually come about because during programming the director asks for a lighting change between the cues you have already recorded. Gaps in the numbering happen because you delete a cue or decide you didn't want to record that cue in the first place. Certainly in my experience, when I prepare my proposed cue list from the script and discussions with the director, when I get to tech rehearsal and actually do the programming, the director asks for an unplanned change, which can results in a point cue (so I don't have to renumber cues in all of my documentation), or I/we decide not to do a lighting change we had envisaged to do - which results in a gap in the numbering. It seems Jester has this sort of flexibility - which for example I did not have with my first programmable desk, the Alcora - where I had to strategically leave blank memory (cue) numbers in case I needed an "insert"! On FLX, you can have 100 "point" cues, for example a cue numbered 15.24, but that does not mean the desk has memory capacity for 9999x100 cues. HTH Kevin

Welcome Eric! I'll attempt to give some responses before Ed/Jon come back online to tell you the latest information! Jester 24/48 still shows as current product on the Zero88 website. However it's likely there is no further firmware development, maybe that is what you mean. I suspect what this means is the desk can hold 500 memories. However maybe they can be numbered anything up to "999" and don't need to be numbered 1-500. GM=Grand Master (see the manual for more information). Other than trying to understand the manual, I can't help you any further with this question, sorry. Overall though I think you should very much look forward to an FLX (or FLX S) next year. I'm curious that you should spend ~1k on a Jester 24/48 this year if what you really want is an FLX... Regards, Kevin

But Joe - Ed didn't say when ZerOS 8 is due let alone the minor rev for this feature - it could be at least a year. So it depends when you're thinking of needing the feature!

Hi Ed, Earlier today you replied to Mac on Blue-Room regards "Fixture Swap-out". I just had a read of the FLX manual and didn't see it described. Maybe you'd share the salient points here or on the BR thread? I'm sure it would be of interest to users. Thanks, Kevin

Ed, This sounds all too familiar from what I saw too when testing .60 beta. Jon did provide a brief explanation, but it seems there ought to be a clearer explanation of the use-cases that are supported in "Tracking Backup", because the FLX locking up (or appearing to be bricked which gave me a fright!) isn't a good outcome! Thanks, Kevin I tried to post a link, but the new Forum seems to have added something more elaborate. Phil - you might not be able to see the following unless you're in the Beta testers group.

Thanks Ed. I tend to post them here then if other users need them, they know they are available. In the Stairville, I've decoded all of the preset colours into the Detail tab. These aren't documented in the manual so I had to work them out by comparing with a Lee gel swatch book. Please check the fixture names are in accordance with Zero88 style - sometimes I'm not sure how to name these things and how to derive the short name. Thanks! Kevin

Here are profiles for: Cameo LED MiniPAR COB 30W Stairville Mini Stage PAR 4x8W RGBA Regards, Kevin cameo_cob30_stairville_miniRGBA.ift

Thanks Ed. Let me update this fixture with those defaults and I'll add the fixture image too (forgot last night), then I'll email it across to you. The attached should be fine for geevee as he doesn't want the 3ch version - but I'll update the attached anyway for him later when I've made the mods. Thanks! Kevin

Hi geevee, It wasn't clear to me which was the fixture definition in the Zero88 library for the COLORdash Par-Hex 12, so I've built fixture definitions fresh from the manual for 3,6,8,12 and 13 channel modes. Find attached. Please give this a go and hopefully you'll get your lights working. On the 3ch fixture I'm not sure what to set the defaults to for HSI/HSV so maybe Ed could take a look at this and add to the Zero88 library. Many of these definitions have multiple pages of parameters, so press colour/beamshape repeatedly to get to the other pages. Where the mode does not have a dedicated dimmer channel, I've added a virtual dimmer so you will need to use the Brightness button and wheel. The Home values are R=G=B=dimmer=255. Let us know how you get on with this! Regards, Kevin cd_parhex12.ift

Hi geevee, Yes I mean the 12 buttons on the right! Good stuff. Ill take a look at the fixture definition today against the manual (unless Ed beats me to it). Have you made sure the fixture is set for the 12 channel mode and you will find there is also a dimmer channel so make sure you select Brightness and wheel up to get non zero. I suspect you are used to the 6 channel mode then just has a channel per colour. Also try selecting the fixture and pressing Home.

Hi geevee, First just to check, is your desk a Fat Frog or above with dedicated fixture support? (Within reason) you can have as many channels as you like for a fixture. Your 12 or 13 channel fixture will be fine. Where there are more parameters per attribute, then you page through in multiples of 3 with the attribute button. So say you have 7 colour parameters, then you will have 3 pages (3+3+1 usually) of colour parameters, and cycle through those pages with the Colour button. Have you written your own fixture definition for your PAR Hex or is it from the Zero88 library? If you want to attach it, and a link to the manual here, then we can check it out for you. Regards, Kevin

Maybe careful not to beat up the user base for asking about features that have been previewed

Cheers Ed! Good to know, thanks. I think I need yet more new glasses as Howartp does clearly say he's trying to select channels not flash them. I think the term "bump buttons" threw me!

Ed, I failed quite early on trying to help out with this one. So after having the issue loading a 7.8.5 show, reported elsewhere, I failed to find out how to change the Channel-mode MFF buttons from select into channel flash buttons! Setup+MFF button (Channel mode) does not bring up any kind of setup window along the lines of those same key presses when the MFFs are set to Playback mode. I found nothing in the manual, so took it that these buttons can't actually be flash/solo/whatever buttons and they are always select buttons. But I'm thinking I must be wrong in this conclusion.... So how do I make the MFF buttons into channel flash buttons as if I understand correctly, that's what we're trying to do here! Thanks, Kevin

Check you are in Tracking mode with Smart Tag on when you Record.

Good stuff. If the fixture you need is not in there then you can request it following these instructions, if you send them a link to the manual: http://zero88.com/forum/topic/7787-requesting-new-fixture-profiles/ ...but I'd also encourage you to have a go at making the profile yourself, using this Windows utility: http://zero88.com/support/index.php?/de/Knowledgebase/Article/View/49/0/zero-88-fixture-tools---version-26 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Floppy-External-Drive-Portable-Windows/dp/B00SWQ4G86/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506948480&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+3.5+floppy

Use the Fixture Editor to make up a collection with the fixtures you want. http://zero88.com/support/index.php?/de/Knowledgebase/Article/View/584/0/legacy-desk-fixture-library

If they are colours C14 onwards (I.e. not the default palettes created by the desk which are C1 to C13, see manual) then this could suggest bad colour detail in the fixture profiles youre using. There is a bug which shows some whites with an empty/black sample. Also it;s possible that lots of the generated colour palettes relate to a "colour wheel" definition in the fixture definition. The fixture may have to have another control channel set for these to work. I had some confusion with this recently: http://zero88.com/forum/topic/8004-zeros-79260/#entry31152 (That post is on the beta-test forum which might not be visible to you. The essence of the text was: "Initially no fixture selected - all boxes grey. Select RGBWA LED fixture (54@25 Enter) Some boxes turn blue - 1C through 13C which are the desk "auto generated" colours, then a bunch of palettes extracted from the detail tab in the fixture definition. This latter bunch do work, but are settings from a "colour wheel" set of fixture predefined colours, so don't actually work unless another fixture channel (under beamshape as we often do for "control" channels) is set appropriately." (Sorry about poor initial reply - tricky using a phone when it keeps auto-"correcting" for you )