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Add a USB keyboard and mash F1 at boot. You’ll get some options. Worth having a USB key with 7.10 and 7.11 on it. See https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/trouble-shooting/zeros-startup-tool

Hi Franco Can we go back to the beginning and you list out what you want to do?

Programmer Time under Z key.

Just to wrap up, thankfully no other issues with the FLX/ZerOS during our tech/dress/performance run. (No issues from any of my other LX or SX kit either including my ~20 yo Sony minidisc decks 😉). Just one blown (but well behaved) T25 in a Prelude PC! 👍 Just the Cue List focus requiring a mouse click once in a while (a bit random as you say)… and on Saturday Matinee, a bit of a PEBCAK issue (ie me! 😆).

I got lucky as I realised afterwards the question was for Solution and I wasn't sure it had the same buttons or process as the FLX! 🤣

Setup+Playback button Release on Lower = no

Fantastic thanks Edward! Interestingly I’ve booted the FLX twice tonight (for dress rehearsal) and on neither occasion did the palette screen appear!

Hi Jon! I don't have an A:B comparison as I use generics for face light (and specials, gobos etc) and LEDs for back and side light colour washes. I don't have good enough quality LED fixtures to use for face and hence neither are they colour calibrated. So in that sense I'm not trying to match tungsten+gel to LED+palette, I'm using the colour palettes to pick a convenient colour for LED fixtures rather than a match to conventionals. That said, the wider filter range is nice - but the colour on stage is not really much like the colour on the touchscreen swatch. My LED fixtures tend to be RGB(CW) or RGB(WW) or RGBAW - i.e. no "filler" colour LEDs like lime etc that you get in a high-end LED fixture. This could be unrelated but I'd have to say the yellow shades I could achieve on my cyc seemed much better than I remember from before - I believe a decent yellow can be hard to achieve from the simpler RGB+W fixtures which I have (in this case my cycs are Stairville RGB(WW) floods). As mentioned above I did also use the new "Temp" (colour temperature) feature with a Philips PL1 LED profile (probably the "highest quality" LED I have) which as a backlight worked nicely when working with a tungsten Source 4 from the front - I was able to warm-up the PL1 a little to blend a little better with the Source 4. So probably not the data you're really looking for, but that's all I've got to offer, sorry! Regards, Kevin

My rig isn't large compared to most of you pros. In this show I have (if I counted everything) 15 LED fixtures (inc 4 movers) and 26 conventionals (Source 4, Prelude F/PC, Quartet F, Minuette F). I'm using "real" gels too: L136, L063, L202, L159, L008 - and L179 chrome orange 🤩 (which indeed won over L134 on this occasion!).

Thanks Edward! Hmm don't believe "GO" worked. Certainly no blue boxes on the cue list (and hence the mouse click). Sounds like you have this under control anyway, thanks! It's the "mash F1" on boot process to recover the console. @Davidmk kindly provided me with details on the PM. I'm hoping not to need that though... Thanks all for support! Regards, Kevin ps Sorry if this is the wrong thread to be having this discussion, feel free to move to a better place in FLX/ZerOS.

Here is the show file for the above. Edward - I understand there is a desk restart process - could you give me a link to the instructions for this? (Probably this: https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/trouble-shooting/zeros-startup-tool ?) Thanks, Kevin TMM_dress1.zos

Thanks Edward. As mentioned elsewhere I did use the Lee filters a lot in this show and those two do look familiar. Whether they were filters I tried and kept or tried and discarded I don’t know. I’ll aim to upload the show file. This screen was repeatable as after this I couldn’t get the GO button to work so power cycled the desk and got it again. The GO button ‘issue’ was just that the machine did not have focus on the cue list from boot - something I’ve mentioned before on an older ZerOS. For me it was rectified by mouse clicking on the external monitor, but it’s something I think should also be fixed - because it catches me out as a reasonably competent desk user, but could completely throw a less experienced operator or stand-in op. I know you gave me a key sequence before when using the bare desk (probably View-View-View) but it shouldn’t be necessary.

Thanks Edward, that’s great! I didn’t think it was a bug, I just wasn’t sure how to fix the situation! Great! Cheers, Kevin

I got this tonight when I turned on the desk for the Dress Rehearsal. Frightened the life out of me! What does it mean?

Thanks Edward! As an extra ask it would be useful if it showed the last ‘n’ previous cues at the bottom where n is fixed to your choosing but at least 1, ideally 2 say. At the moment if you move around the cue stack, the current (green) can be on the bottom line - say this is cue ‘m’, but the lines above are not ‘m-1’ and ‘m-2’ etc so when you scroll with the arrow keys the cue list jumps about.

Similar here. Dress Rehearsal tonight. Using 7.11. I used the new colour temperature adjustment and lots of the Lee filters colour palettes. As discussed elsewhere the cue stack behaviour is really annoying when programming. Any chance we could have a Setup option to stop it keep jumping back to Cue 1 when working at the end of the cue stack? We could use this during programming but turn it off during shows where looping back to cue 1 is useful. We’re doing the musical ‘Thoroughly Modern Millie’.

I copied a cue from earlier in my show (lets say Q16) to a later cue number as I wanted essentially the same lighting state again. Actually what I wanted was that state minus the FOH fixtures (as an on-stage preset) as one cue (lets say Q42), followed by that same state plus FOH for the next cue (Q43) [because it was the start of Act 2] So I copied Q16 to Q42, then selected and set to 0 the FOH fixtures. I copied the same Q16 to Q43 for the "whole stage" state. I found that Q43 contained lots of "blocked" values, shown in white in the Output Window. I didn't like this (I wanted Q43 to track from Q42), so I deleted Q43, copied Q42 to Q43 then went back to Q16 and wrote down all of the FOH values and then added them back in to Q43. Clearly this is the wrong way to do this! What would be the right way - or a better way? Did I miss something on the Copy window that would have tracked rather than blocked the pasted cue? The desk is in tracking on, and Smart Tag would have been on (as I never turned it off during a Record or Update). Reading the manual now, I can see I can Unblock the whole playback, but could I have just unblocked Q43 so it tracked from Q42? Whilst I didn't knowingly have any blocked values in the rest of my show, I wasn't fully sure, so did not want to trigger an Unblock on the entire (master) playback. Advice please! Thanks! Kevin

Are there internal memory DIMMs that maybe need re-seating?

Not sure how RCBOs, even on the mains side of the triacs, will play with dimming. I realise you might be talking about the hot power sockets but the MCB is common on the channel. I doubt Zero88 would support this modification to their product (if nothing else it would invalidate the formal product qualification they have to do for CE/UKCA marking).

...and it's worth adding (although this post might get deleted!), that if you are in the UK south west or South Wales area, Keith can be very obliging if you're not looking for a whole-board rebuild, even outside of the warranty period... Sorry if I overstepped the mark there, but I think it's highly commendable that Zero88 hardware support doesn't actually stop at the 3 year anniversary if you ask nicely. I have personal experience of this excellent service (thanks Keith and Edward!) - my FLX will be '7' this year. (Hopefully the big bosses aren't reading...)

Hi Derek! That’s a shame you had to replace the fader. Did you feel at risk of lifting the pads or tracks when you did this? Is there any feedback to give to Zero88 regards the robustness of the pads and traces in respect of service operations like this? I.e. is there enough (but not too much) pad and track mass on the PCB design around the fader pins?

"Launched in the next month or two" said Jon. Ah, we're back to the old project plan 🤣 So there's time there to sneak in some other stuff to keep the rest of us quiet while he deals with the new requests from the Signify suits upstairs. And anyway we've 7.11 to play with for a while - Jon cunningly slipped that one out in double-quick time to keep us occupied whilst he was tinkering on the 7.12 stuff! 😝👍

Does that mean if we voted for that option we get a substitute vote to allocate to one of the remaining options?

Thanks Edward! The key for me is the sound source is designed to be controlled/triggered (like a dimmer or luminaire) whereas the lighting desk (FLX) is designed to be a controllER. So being able to generate control actions from the FLX (by outputting MIDI rather than just receiving MIDI) makes network topology sense to me. FLX doesn’t have any other ‘auxiliary’ control outputs.

I have this underlying requirement too (or maybe I like tinkering!) where I would like to trigger my sound cues from lighting cues. At the moment I too press Go on my FLX and Play on one of my Sony MDS-E12 minidisc decks. My solution is to build a DMX interface to ‘contact closure’ (or possibly RS232 commands if I want to get fancy), but it would be nice to take MIDI from the FLX instead 🙂 Need to tick the appropriate box in the ‘new features’ list for FLX in the General Discussion section!