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This is really important feedback @Amy Worrall, thanks for taking the time to capture it all!
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45 minutes ago, delfine said:
Yes, I'll wait for Edward before going any further. However, I don't understand, when I went back to 7.13, I had the question of updating the cprocessor when I went back to 7.13, I said yes... Is this really what you are talking about ? “ he will also want to regress.”
The French <= > English translation is not always very clear.
Hi @dolphins
7.13 will require an old coprocessor code.
When you install 7.13 after 7.14, the installer will also move the coprocessor back to 7.13.
-> your experience is expected 🙂
I hope that translates ok!
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10 hours ago, delfine said:
OK thanks.
I'm waiting for what @kgallen says.
🤞I'm a little panicked.
Hopefully @Edward Z88 will be here soon to give you proper advice, but it seems for now you should backdate to 7.13 for your show. If you did update coprocessor firmware then it will want to regress that too.
A while back I was testing some beta releases of ZerOS and needed to regress to 7.13 for a show. I didn't (fortunately) have any issues. Note this was FLX rather than FLX S though.
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21 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:
If I go to a cue, make a few edits, untag something, then do Update… in the newly updated cue, does the thing I untagged remain at whatever it was set to before the update (e.g. in eos just not including it in the parameters to update), or does it get removed from the cue entirely (e.g. in eos doing @<enter>)?
If you Untag something then that untagged change will not be recorded or updated.
You need to use the REMOVE method discussed above to take a something out of a cue.
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2 hours ago, Davidmk said:
I love threads like this, I always learn something. In this case, more than I contributed 😀. Thanks all.
I agree!
However it's embarrassing sometimes, I should have known "Clear Fixture" off the top of my head! 😏
What it reminds me is I need to keep reading the manual and focusing on some of the "advanced" sections. And to keep re-watching Edward's various FLX/ZerOS videos!
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@Edward Z88 ah Clear Fixture - that's the one! I was completely wrong!
Edward, would you be prepared to add that to the "Manual Tagging" section of this page - or a cross-link or one of your "lightbulb" boxes to point to that if it's documented elsewhere in the manual (seems to he here)? I'm sure you probably mention Clear Fixture in the video that is in that section, I just didn't want to watch all of that video to answer Amy's question.
🙂
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Hi @Edward Z88
Could you answer this part of the original query. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong in my answer. I couldn't find anything in the manual, but I'm sure there must be something...
This part of my answer I'm pretty sure is wrong, or at least missing something:
On 8/27/2023 at 10:07 AM, kgallen said:To untag a whole fixture, select it then (I think) it's CLEAR+HOME (need to check the manual!).
Thanks, Kevin
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ZerOS tags when you adjust <thing> but I guess you know that!
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22 minutes ago, Davidmk said:
@kgallen I'm a busker but, call me old fashioned, I keep it off for cue stacks because I'm used to working that way.
Sure, that's of course fine! I was just curious that Amy might think she "needs" to work with SmartTag off when doing theatre stacks.
Each to their own based on their needs, experience and workflow. 🙂
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Hi Amy,
I guess I should've questioned this one:
9 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- I know that I should turn SmartTag off,
Why? (out of interest!)
I programme theatre cue stacks and rarely turn off SmartTag. I only do if I need to do a REMOVE or something very specific for an UPDATE operation.
I know that the busking folk tend to turn SmartTag off but this is because they are doing some complex overlaying of Playbacks with very specific material recorded into each playback, and generally not using a traditional stack or relying on features such as Move on Dark.
But for theatre cue stack I would have thought in the main, you'd have SmartTag on.
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Just now, Davidmk said:
Hi @kgallen. This will remove that fixture from the cue entirely. If that's not what you want then just select the parameters you want (or do "thing") and then update remove instead. Or do HOME and un-tag the ones you want to keep. The values are irrelevant by the way - its the selection that matters.
Yes, sorry, I should have elaborated on my answer for attribute remove! Thanks for clarifying that! - I should have thought more about "thing"!
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Hi Amy,
"Welcome back!". I'll try to help...
8 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- Is there an equivalent of Eos's blind spreadsheet? If not, what's the best way to see exactly which bits of information are recorded into a cue?
Since you have an FLX, the Output window has a Preview button. To see fixture details (colour, gobo etc) you'll have to select them first and then you'll get a scrollable list. (Might not be quite as good as you have on Eos).
8 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- I know that I should turn SmartTag off, and things that are manually tagged will get recorded. Does this just apply at a parameter level, or is it also a concept at a fixture level? For instance, can I un-tag a whole fixture in order to not record it when creating a cue?
SmartTag looks for non-zero intensity then records only the attributes/parameters that are adjusted in the programmer and are thus required to be recorded to recreate that look. Whether it is attribute or parameter depends on the attribute. For example by default, Colour parameters are linked together (so you get the colour you want) whereas Shape and Beam parameters are not grouped (gobo is not linked with zoom for example). If you turn SmartTag off then tagging will be based on what you adjusted but the "linking" will be as above. You can change this in Setup.
To untag a whole fixture, select it then (I think) it's CLEAR+HOME (need to check the manual!). To untag a whole attribute it's CLEAR+COLOUR (for example)
8 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- If I've accidentally recorded too much into a cue, how can I remove a certain thing? (The equivalent on Eos of going into blind, and doing <thing> <@> <enter>.)
Select the Fixture, hit HOME (this will tag all parameters). UPDATE and select the REMOVE option. (See David's elaboration in the following post).
8 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- Does ZerOS have the equivalent of by-type palettes? (i.e. I set the colour on one fixture into a by-type colour palette, and any others of the same brand, even if they're patched in the future, will get that colour.)
Palettes recorded on a fixture can be applied to another fixture of the exact same type even if that other fixture wasn't selected when recorded. There isn't currently any other "palette morphing" onto a fixture with similar capabilities but a different make/model. (This is something I/we've been asking for for some time, so I hope it will come along soon... 😉 )
8 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- From the manual, I think I read that there's a way to e.g. store non-colour data in a colour palette, etc. I don't want to do that -- is it the sort of thing I might end up doing by accident?
No you won't do it by accident. You have to try "quite hard" to get anything but Colour in a Colour palette (but actually you can record Beam/Shape etc in there but you have to be very explicit to do that). The most (in my usage) application of this is to be very specific about which attributes are recorded into an Effect palette.
8 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- What's the easiest way to select a bunch of cues and adjust things like their fade time all at once?
I'm not sure you can do that. Using the "spreadsheet" style of the cue list one by one is the only method I know. You can however in Setup, set the default times for fades, so if during programming you need different times for a block of cues you could do this. But once you've programmed, I don't know a quicker way to update them.
8 hours ago, Amy Worrall said:- Is there an equivalent of copy-to/recall-from? Especially, is there an equivalent to how on Eos you can go into blind, select e.g. cues 1-20, then do channel 15 copy-to channel 18, and it'll apply that copy operation on all of those cues at once.
There is reasonable COPY (and MOVE) functionality (especially on FLX), but I don't know that you can do this.
I hope that helps!
I'd encourage you to put enhancement requests in on this forum for any features you have in Eos that would be beneficial on ZerOS.
To record a blackout, I recommend "1 THRU *. <ENTER>" as this allows move on dark to continue to work. Similarly, avoid snapshot cues Similarly if you get white boxes in your output windows, those fixtures have "blocked" values. If this is not intended, then use UPDATE <ENTER> (with SmartTag enabled) to remove these. Note also when you're using UPDATE to ensure you've selected the tracking option you want - Cue Only, Track Forward etc (those are probably the options you're most likely to use). Tracking works well on FLX so I'd encourage you to stay in that mode, and not go back to Global Cue Only mode (in Setup).
Regards,
Kevin
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28 minutes ago, discover said:
Does "switch off" mean disconnect the power cord?
Yes. Software update requires a power cycle, so on FLX S you have to do this via "external means", which may be the switch on the socket (in the UK) or disconnecting the AC or DC side of the power to the console.
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If you're on a computer (rather than a phone), there is an entry in the banner for this Forum for "ZerOS Manual".
If you click on that, then the page you're taken to is (unsurprisingly!) the online Manual. On that page to the left of the "Select Variant" button is "PDF". That should get you what you want - although essentially it's the online manual in a PDF format, it's not an independent document written more as a "book". So the formatting is not always great when seen as an A4 page.
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(Off topic - please branch)
17 hours ago, Jon Hole said:The filtering remains when using the search.
I'm not sure that's my experience, and it's annoying - I want to find something on FLX and I get pages of answers for Solution.
Search is still largely unusable. For example, given a word like "Remove" it should prioritise returning results for the command rather than giving back 10 pages of stuff that has "remove" (not the command) in the text.
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On 6/30/2023 at 10:02 AM, Edward Z88 said:
Thanks for confirming 👍
What seems to happen is when I first load the site (click on my bookmark) the "Allow Cookies" banner pops up at the bottom of the screen, then almost immediately disappears, presumably because it is "checked". Maybe this is an artefact of the current version of Chrome I'm using which is "Version 114.0.5735.134 (Official Build) (64-bit)". In this instance this is a work laptop and I don't manage software versions on it.
Note: Just updated Chrome to .199 and revisiting this site, the Cookies popup didn't happen. No action required!
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14 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:
The forum was updated yesterday, which required users to re-accept the Cookie Policy.
I'm on Chrome, and the first time I logged in following the update I had to click Accept. I haven't received the Cookie pop-up again.
Ah ok. I've had this over a range of machines I browse the forum on. Probably I haven't seen it twice on the same machine/browser combination. Thanks!
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The forum is asking me a lot to accept cookies, even though I'm still logged in. This never used to happen. Any reason why?
I've got the same AV (Norton) I've had for years and haven't cleared caches or changed or updated browser. Still Win10/Chrome.
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34 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:
When you trigger a playback from a cue in the Master Playback, the triggered playback's colour will fade in over its own cue time. This colour transition will not be governed by the Master Playback.
When you release a playback from a cue in the Master Playback, that playback's colours will release as soon as the fixtures have faded out. The fade out is governed by the Fade Down time of the cue in the Master Playback that has the release.
Makes sense once one thinks about it, but please add to the "Top Tips" list!!! 🙂
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8 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:
I don't have a personal licence for Capture,
😳 (shocked rolling around on the floor gobsmacked emoji!!!)
...but you "made" me buy one!!!! 😁
(for clarification for others, no he didn't!!!)
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3 minutes ago, Edward Z88 said:
Apologies to @Uriahdemon for going off-topic!
Maybe we should start a "Hot Tips" thread...
I will certainly be downloading that Grease zos after my show is done, but this is just because I'm nosey to look at a "professional" showfile. I think what lots of us are missing is the workflow and the totally in depth knowledge and the tricks and sneaks that get you out of a mess, which can't be gained just by looking at the end result (the showfile). I'm not a novice on FLX. but I lack that confidence that comes from knowing the console inside and out that comes from working with it for many hours a month, which is something I don't do as an amateur.
Edward, if you have a related Capture project would you be prepared to upload that too?
I'm almost embarrassed to ask this one.
in FLX S24 & FLX S48
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This just needs release on lower disabling doesn’t it?
The trigger level could be set to 1 or 2% if the colour needs to snap the first time the fader is pushed
Setup+Playback button then you’ll find it in there, I think under one of the page tabs.