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I think you're right about 'cue only' recording everything but believe the gotcha is that if intensity is 0 then it's a flag that says not to record colour/position/beamshape nor effect information. The only way over this is like @kgallen has said

Thats what I thought as well, that 'Cue Only' should record 'everything'. ZerOs does tend to baffle me. All a bit 'Fisher Price my 2nd Lighting Board' in comparison to the old Strand 500 series or ETC Eos family.

If you’re in cue-only mode then I thought the console records ‘everything’. In which case your ‘No Effect’ should have worked regardless. Maybe that’s not how ZerOS works! In cue-only I wonder if move on dark can ever work. Hmmm. Others more experienced with cue-only may know!

It seems that 'Smart Tag' does only show as a button when set in Tracking Mode. - when I put the desk into 'Cue Only' the Smart Tag button disappears. This all makes some sense now. Thank you

Both fixtures are already in the fixture library. Is your desk currently running the latest OS? (which will mean it will also have the latest fixture library).

Has anyone made fixture profiles for these? If so, could they please share them? LED TMH-H240 Beam/Wash/Flower Effect Varytec Typhoon True Kid 720Z Ben

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Hi friends, does someone know if there is a way to ssh or telnet or rlogin into the console? As the console is legacy and now also no new SW will be developed I'm curious and would like to look around a bit 😉 Best regards! Sven

Somehow you have to get a "No Effect" instruction in there otherwise even if your next movers cue is at a new position, they'll just start dancing around that new position. I'm not familiar with Solution but as it's a "modern" ZerOS console (i.e. post Frog2/LF94/ORB) I would expect it to have Smart Tag, assuming you're not in "Cue Only" mode. So I'm not clear why your Record and Update options boxes don't show a usable Smart Tag button.

@kgallen So far, the one thing that does see to work is recording the movers blackout cue , and then create the effects cue to slot in front. If the movers are then in a subsequent cue, move on dark jumps in and they are preset ready for the next one. Without remaining dancing.

Check out my thread here. Back in the day you sent a scan of or link to the manual to support and a few office hours later you got a personality file back. The fixture would then be in the next release of the library for everyone to use. Now, it seems, the process takes longer and you have to pay for it. I imagine most people just use the Fixture Editor in the desk to generate their own. If there is a process by which fixtures get added to the library without someone requesting them then I am unaware of it. However I believe it is a resource shared with other manufacturers so you never know.

Will the fixture list be updated for the new ETC Coloursource V Zoom PAR fixture?

Yea I went through the manual and it doesn't seem to be designed for the FLX S, so that its available for the Watch thingy is kinda not right, at least for the FLX S. I saw Highlight working tho. But yea after clearing the programmer we weren't able to get the fixtures working again, besides the one selected throu Rem Dim. Idk, maybe that's just an individual problem or so. Solved it by basically not allowing my friend to use Rem Dim anymore, works fantastic. Thanks again to you all.

Rem Dim (or Remainder Dim) is a feature common on most lighting desks which dims all active outputs to 0%, and sends all channels you have selected to 100%. This feature is particularly useful during focusing sessions or rig checks. E.G. Dimmers 1 thru 12 are at 50%. You want to specifically pick out dimmer 6 to allow you to focus it better. Select channel 6 and 'Rem Dim', channels 1 thru 5, and 7 thru 12 go to 0% and channel 6 goes to 100%. In ZerOS, channels affected by Rem Dim are shown in Yellow as @kgallen has pointed out earlier. I don't believe Rem Dim is a feature that is enabled on the FLX S range consoles, and is exclusive to full FLX only (unaware of other legacy consoles). On review of the ZerOS Shortcuts (https://www.zero88.com/manuals/zeros/shortcuts/keyboard-shortcuts?filter=1) "Shift + F" enables Rem Dim on FLX but I have tried this on Phantom and it doesn't work for FLX S. This may be an error that this feature works via an Apple Watch (unable to test this unfortunately!) You do have access to the 'Highlight' feature (Shift + Home) on FLX S range. Highlight allows you to temporarily bump the intensity of a selected fixture up to 100%, which again can also be useful during focusing. During testing on Phantom ZerOS, both Rem Dim and Highlight can be 'CLEAR CLEAR'-ed. Hope this is of some help! Good luck!

That's a nuisance. It was late when I scanned through the manual so, if I missed something about releasing it, I apologise.

That's the thing, clearing doesn't undo it, nor deselecting or in that matter anything (at least when we tried). But i'll look into it, and maybe I'll come back here this evening

This is why we’re here! Keep asking/sharing and we’ll do our best. If you can help out another user - either directly by asking a question of your own which is answered, or more directly, then even better. That’s how this forum works, especially now the Vari-lite support is minimal.

I haven't used Rem Dim (or Highlight for that matter) but, checking the manual, I see that it applies to selected fixtures so I guess it is removed when you clear the programmer. Check the manual yourself for more details including the Apple watch app. Don't select a desk type as the S series may not have these features or at least not the MFKs to set to them.

Thanks again, btw our project went smooth besides one or two small things. I hope no one minds me asking more on here. For some reason ZerOS Monitor works on Apple Watches even tho the only good function a friend found is Rem Dim. Nowww, i guessed it means like remote dimmer or so but the true problem is, the program for the watch crashes quite often and we haven't found a way to deactivate Rem Dim besides the watch feature - The keyboard shortcut on Windows didn't wanna work either. It ended in us having to restart the console multiple times throughout programming. So, what actually is it and does it, and how can I deactivate it without a force reboot? Sorry to keep y'all up with my stuff. Jan

Just to check, did you run the cue first and then apply the recipe?

@Worcester RGSTech can you upload your showfile then maybe one of us can have a play in Phantom. I’m not sure what the HEIC file you uploaded above is, my iPhone doesn’t recognise it.

@kgallen I tried following your instructions, but so far with no success. The Solution does not appear to show 'SmartTag' in the options box, just 'Clear Tagging' It seems to make no difference whether I click the 'Effects Pallete 1 No Effect' box. Cue Only should make no difference in that in the first instance I just want to stop the effect in 1 Cue. ( the desk is currently running in Cue Only mode although that may change)Does SmartTag only appear when using Tracking ? IMG_0550.HEIC

ETA if my instructions are not clear, Edward documented the process in this paragraph (although again for FLX series). As he says, you might need to Track Forward, depending on where your cue is programmed/when you do the Update process:

Thank you for your answers 🙂 For the moment, I disable the move on dark on all buggy playbacks and it is quite stable. I have already made myself comfortable with the 4 playback/channel pages, so i will just wait new versions and make move myself on dark. I edited post my google like for the dumpfile (too heavy to upload to the forum). Best regards, Alexandre

I've got "form" for crashing FLX across more than one version of ZerOS. Not been able to find a way to force it to crash and neither have support so my ticket (ZOS-12410) is still outstanding. I updated one of my desks to v8 a few weeks back to create a new showfile for a venue I've started working at but had a crash on that so I took the desk back and started again. My crashes have all seemed to relate to the desk being busy with lots going on (effects and a chase running plus playbacks being flashed and lots of OSC messages). Buffer overruns and processor overloads have, apparently, been ruled out by support. That said, I've also had crashes where the desk was in a static state for a long time (hours). I have two desks, both seem to be affected. The fact that your issue seems to be repeatable gives some hope that it will give support more to go on. Fingers crossed 🤞.