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How do I control the initial colour of playbacks?
Davidmk replied to Phil Mckerracher's topic in General Discussion
@Phil Mckerracher Can you post your show file or DM it to me? I'm kind of busy this week pre-programming a show for Friday but as soon as I get a chance I'll load it up on my real FLX and have a play. -
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How do I control the initial colour of playbacks?
Phil Mckerracher replied to Phil Mckerracher's topic in General Discussion
Re-reading the thread (because I'm sort of back to square one) there were two points raised that I think are worth further comment because they can now be ruled out. 1. The potential differences between Flex and Leapfrog (and Solution) can probably be ruled out because I think this is a software problem and the ZerOS software is common to all those boards. I guess the hardware drivers might be different but the fact that I can reproduce the problem with PhantomZerOS running on a Windows PC suggests not. 2. Being able to reproduce the problem in PhantomZerOS also tends to rule out the (otherwise plausible) theory that something in the inherited show setup causes it. I think the causes have been explained fairly thoroughly - the colours are designed to either "snap" when triggered or fade in gradually with the fader (or a delay). It's the solution that I'm still struggling with. If I can get it to fade from black instead of white that will probably do it. -
Update: Tried this on the real board in the theatre and it didn't work. The board has been upgraded from a Leapfrog 48 to a Solution which might explain that. But what DID work was better - Clear + Submasters. This cleared them all in two button presses, which is great. Except when it doesn't. 😞 It's not reliable - some faders still sometimes had to be cleared manually by cycling through submaster pages, finding active submasters and raising and lowering the fader. It doesn't always happen and I didn't manage to find the crucial difference between the ones that clear and ones that don't in the time available.
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How do I control the initial colour of playbacks?
Phil Mckerracher replied to Phil Mckerracher's topic in General Discussion
Update: Tried the above solution ("Manual fader 1 way") on the real board at the theatre and it didn't work, so I'm back to square one. 😞 The board in the theatre has been upgraded from a Leapfrog 48 to a Solution, so that might explain the difference. I'll try the simulated version of that when I get a chance. I noticed a progress bar along the bottom edge of the LCD display above each of the 10 submaster faders. It takes about 5 seconds to reach all the way across once triggered by raising the fader. The behaviour of the lights is different depending on whether the progress has completed or not - I would like to disable it completely but I couldn't find any setting for it. I set every delay I could find in both the submaster properties and the board settings to zero but it's still there. Does anyone know where it is set or how to disable it completely? - Last week
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Not entirely sure how I should open the log file to be honest haha, I assume I need to decrypt it somehow.
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Hi Ben, Yes - to insert a cue between two other cues, simply set up your scene and tap 'Record'. Then type the cue number between the two cues you want to insert your new cue between. Then hit the 'GO' button, or alternatively if you have an external keyboard connected you can press 'Enter' to submit your action. As @kgallen said, cue numbers have the ability to be identified with up to a 2 decimal place number, so I could have 0.99 or 0.58 if I wanted. For example: If I wanted to insert a cue between 1 and 0.8, and I wanted its number to be 0.9, I'd tap 'Record', type 0.9 and hit 'GO'. I recommended to connect an external keyboard to your console as it can help in numerous scenarios with the keyboard shortcuts that are available for use. You can access the on-screen touchpad via hitting the Z key on your FLX S24 console.
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OK, yes, I know all about tracking and terms lantern, fixture... And SmartTag. So to insert, I press Record, type cue no to insert, then tap the Cue button/Go? Have not found a video that goes through this. Only recording 0 makes sense as other things are irrelevant, so I will give it another go. Regards, Ben
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Ah yeah you're probably right. I remember 10 or so years ago programming Joseph's Tech Dreamcoat on the Jester and had an excel spreadsheet with all the RGB values required for each colour. It was red, and yellow, and green, and.... 😄 (spoilt rotten with the colour picker on FLX now!)
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I think that's only a label for fixtures that use HSI internally, but does not actually add any "math" behind the scenes (as e.g. the virtual dimmer channel does). There would need to be a way to enter 3 DMX adresses for each value (i.e. the R/G/B channels that should be calculated from HSI). But I'll give it a try.
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Fixture editor available here if you don't have it already : https://www.vari-lite.com/global/products/zeros-software (under Latest ZerOS Library > Zero 88 Fixture Tools 2.6) Good luck!
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I've not touched a Jester for a long time, however I've fired up the old Zero88 Fixture Editor tool, and it is possible to assign Hue, Saturation, and Intensity, against the colour parameter, so this could be possible if you've got some time to test it!
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Out of curiosity, what errors did you get from the log file?
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Welp I had a major show crash with a Z88 LF96, managed to get some Linux errors. Sent them a showfile 19th March and no response... I'm not hopeful for the future.
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Hello, is there a way to create fixture definitions that allow to operate fixtures with RGB color mixing as HSB on the JesterML/TL (i.e. program colors as hue/saturation/brightness and the console converts it into red/green/blue output channels)? The arrangement of the scroll wheels would be perfect for that. regards, Stephan
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How do I control the initial colour of playbacks?
kgallen replied to Phil Mckerracher's topic in General Discussion
Thanks for documenting this @Phil Mckerracher especially as many of us who post regularly on here have little if any experience of Leap Frog 48 (ZerOS) so struggle to be specific on the controls/details on this console. Cheers! -
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How do I control the initial colour of playbacks?
Phil Mckerracher replied to Phil Mckerracher's topic in General Discussion
Update: I think I've found a solution, at least in the simulator. Recording it here for my own benefit and in case it helps others. What I did: The link here doesn't work but I eventually found the "capture demo packs" here https://www.capture.se/Downloads/Download-Demo-Packs and Phantom Zeros 7.14.4 here https://www.vari-lite.com/global/products/zeros-software (you have to click the Legacy Zeros link and download and unzip the file to find it). This allowed me to run the three capture demos. I couldn't get the "Club" demo to work at all - it loaded but none of the lights would come on. But the other two (Open Air and Dockhouse) do work and that's all I needed. I also discovered how to see what the buttons on the simulated Leapfrog48 console are - if you hover over them it tells you in the title bar at the top left. Far from ideal but a lot better than trial and error. WIth a working simulation I could at last do some experimenting at home. It's taken me all day but I think I've found a solution, which is.... [FX: Drumroll] After saving a scene to a "Multi Function Fader" (aka Submaster), click the fader (in the MFF window on the monitor) to open its properties and change Fader Function to Manual Fade (1 way). I have no idea why this works - the user guide makes no sense to me in this area, but it does what I want. The colour remains as the intensity changes. This is better for me than editing the default colours of all the fixtures because it's faster and less disruptive. A side effect is that the Flash button no longer works, but in a way that's an advantage since I rarely use them except by accident! I will get a chance to try it on the real board later this week. Fingers crossed. I also confirmed the solution to my other question here so I'm happy. 🙂