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rhiannon_r

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the last two times my zero 88 fat frog has gone on an outing upon it's return it's been delaying on fading and bumps. sometimes as much as a seven second delay. sometimes no delay at all. which looks super tacky while trying to keep time with bands.

 

i started thinking about it and i never turn the dimmers off...i wonder if that has anything to do with it.

 

the issue is with the conventional lights, not the intelligent. the issue is on the channel handles as well as the submaster channels, but not ALL of them...the problem seems to be very come and go. :angry:

 

i can see how it might be an issue of dmx since there are three different dimmers all sending dmx info plus the movers.

 

what do you all make of this?

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Do you see a delay on the values in the DMX Output window on the Fat Frog? This will tell you what the desk is sending, and thus whether the problem lies in the desk or elsewhere in your system.

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I tried today while running a show to watch for a change in the outputs, but like a car being taken to the mechanic or a child to the doctor it didn't miss behave today. besides that for some reason i always run my show so it's in submaster view, and on F1 locked to i can change the pallets on the fly.

 

I did run the board in test mode that i saw someone mention somewhere else. (F1 as the board boots)

 

the page numbers changed as follows: 90 72 63 54 45 36 27 18 9 over and over again. The LCD screen said: A PRSET FADERS

1 2 3 4 5 6

00 00 00 00 00 00

 

the computer screen was frozen where it said it was in test mode. nothing happen on any of the bump buttons...which i thought was supposed to be part of the test. i ended up powering down and turning it back on and going about my day at work. I'm still curious though...

 

As soon as I can get it malfunctioning and on outputs view I will report the diagnosis. thanks Paul.

 

rhiannon

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The counting on the 7-segment displays is normal and is a test pattern to confirm that all segments are working normally. The channel flash buttons (or SX buttons on the Mambo Frog) select different test pages on the main LCD, which show fader values or button presses etc. There are no monitor displays implemented in test mode.

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i see so i'm supposed to select which channels and submasters to test, or do the different channels do different tests? then the LCD will report back the output of each channel or submaster selected?

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Panel test mode has nothing to do with the show data stored in the desk, it simply checks that the hardware is working correctly. You select a page of faders (using the channel flash or SX buttons), then move the faders one by one, and check that the correct level is shown on the LCD. There are also test pages for checking buttons and the sound-to-light input. It's really meant for factory and dealer testing only, hence it's not documented in the user manual.

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sweet wonderfulness. well that will make it a lot easier to check my problem. thank you.

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so...i haven't seen any outputs displaying a jump in numbers...and wow were my eyes doing the back and forth trying to look at the lcd screen and back to the stage to see if the light was still jumping from 20 to 80 percent and vice versa while i was fading up and down.

 

but I did notice in the output screen on the monitor had many channels (8 12 17 19 20 21 are a few i remember) stay at 2 and 3% no matter how hard i push down every fader...

 

what in the world do ya'll think that could be about?

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With the desk in test mode, do those channel faders go to zero?

 

Are those channels outputting from a submaster or the playback X, which might be holding them at that minimum level?

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